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Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2024 12:54:10 -0700
From: Nick Desaulniers <ndesaulniers@...gle.com>
To: Yabin Cui <yabinc@...gle.com>
Cc: Steffen Klassert <steffen.klassert@...unet.com>, Herbert Xu <herbert@...dor.apana.org.au>, 
	"David S. Miller" <davem@...emloft.net>, Eric Dumazet <edumazet@...gle.com>, 
	Jakub Kicinski <kuba@...nel.org>, Paolo Abeni <pabeni@...hat.com>, 
	Nathan Chancellor <nathan@...nel.org>, Bill Wendling <morbo@...gle.com>, 
	Justin Stitt <justinstitt@...gle.com>, netdev@...r.kernel.org, 
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, llvm@...ts.linux.dev, 
	"Ballman, Aaron" <aaron.ballman@...el.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Fix initializing a static union variable

On Thu, Jun 20, 2024 at 12:47 PM Nick Desaulniers
<ndesaulniers@...gle.com> wrote:
>
> On Thu, Jun 20, 2024 at 12:31 PM Nick Desaulniers
> <ndesaulniers@...gle.com> wrote:
> >
> > On Thu, Jun 20, 2024 at 11:17 AM Yabin Cui <yabinc@...gle.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > saddr_wildcard is a static union variable initialized with {}.
> > > But c11 standard doesn't guarantee initializing all fields as
> > > zero for this case. As in https://godbolt.org/z/rWvdv6aEx,
> >
> > Specifically, it sounds like C99+ is just the first member of the
> > union, which is dumb since that may not necessarily be the largest
> > variant.  Can you find the specific relevant wording from a pre-c23
> > spec?
> >
> > > clang only initializes the first field as zero, but the bits
> > > corresponding to other (larger) members are undefined.
> >
> > Oh, that sucks!
> >
> > Reading through the internal report on this is fascinating!  Nice job
> > tracking down the issue!  It sounds like if we can aggressively inline
> > the users of this partially initialized value, then the UB from
> > control flow on the partially initialized value can result in
> > Android's kernel network tests failing.  It might be good to include
> > more info on "why this is a problem" in the commit message.
> >
> > https://godbolt.org/z/hxnT1PTWo more clearly demonstrates the issue, IMO.
> >
> > TIL that C23 clarifies this, but clang still doesn't have the correct
> > codegen then for -std=c23.  Can you please find or file a bug about
> > this, then add a link to it in the commit message?
> >
> > It might be interesting to link to the specific section of n3096 that
> > clarifies this, or if there was a corresponding defect report sent to
> > ISO about this.  Maybe something from
> > https://www.open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg14/www/wg14_document_log.htm
> > discusses this?
>
> https://www.open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg14/www/docs/n3011.htm
>
> https://clang.llvm.org/c_status.html mentions that n3011 was addressed
> by clang-17, but based on my godbolt link above, it seems perhaps not?

Sorry, n3011 was a minor revision to
https://www.open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg14/www/docs/n2900.htm
which is a better citation for this bug, IMO.  I still think the clang
status page is wrong (for n2900) and that is a bug against clang that
should be fixed (for c23), but this kernel patch still has merit
(since the issue I'm referring to in clang is not what's leading to
the test case failures).

>
> 6.7.10.2 of n3096 (c23) defines "empty initialization" (which wasn't
> defined in older standards).
>
> Ah, reading
>
> n2310 (c17) 6.7.9.10:
>
> ```
> If an object that has static or thread storage duration is not
> initialized explicitly, then:
> ...
> — if it is a union, the first named member is initialized
> (recursively) according to these rules, and
> any padding is initialized to zero bits;
> ```
>
> Specifically, "the first named member" was a terrible mistake in the language.
>
> Yikes! Might want to quote that in the commit message.
>
> >
> > Can you also please (find or) file a bug against clang about this? A
> > compiler diagnostic would be very very helpful here, since `= {};` is
> > such a common idiom.
> >
> > Patch LGTM, but I think more context can be provided in the commit
> > message in a v2 that helps reviewers follow along with what's going on
> > here.
> >
> > >
> > > Signed-off-by: Yabin Cui <yabinc@...gle.com>
> > > ---
> > >  net/xfrm/xfrm_state.c | 2 +-
> > >  1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-)
> > >
> > > diff --git a/net/xfrm/xfrm_state.c b/net/xfrm/xfrm_state.c
> > > index 649bb739df0d..9bc69d703e5c 100644
> > > --- a/net/xfrm/xfrm_state.c
> > > +++ b/net/xfrm/xfrm_state.c
> > > @@ -1139,7 +1139,7 @@ xfrm_state_find(const xfrm_address_t *daddr, const xfrm_address_t *saddr,
> > >                 struct xfrm_policy *pol, int *err,
> > >                 unsigned short family, u32 if_id)
> > >  {
> > > -       static xfrm_address_t saddr_wildcard = { };
> > > +       static const xfrm_address_t saddr_wildcard;
> > >         struct net *net = xp_net(pol);
> > >         unsigned int h, h_wildcard;
> > >         struct xfrm_state *x, *x0, *to_put;
> > > --
> > > 2.45.2.741.gdbec12cfda-goog
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Thanks,
> > ~Nick Desaulniers
>
>
>
> --
> Thanks,
> ~Nick Desaulniers



-- 
Thanks,
~Nick Desaulniers

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