linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH V2] cgroup/rstat: Avoid thundering herd problem by kswapd across NUMA nodes

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Message-ID: <CAJD7tka0b52zm=SjqxO-gxc0XTib=81c7nMx9MFNttwVkCVmSg@mail.gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2024 15:21:22 -0700
From: Yosry Ahmed <yosryahmed@...gle.com>
To: Shakeel Butt <shakeel.butt@...ux.dev>
Cc: Jesper Dangaard Brouer <hawk@...nel.org>, tj@...nel.org, cgroups@...r.kernel.org, 
	hannes@...xchg.org, lizefan.x@...edance.com, longman@...hat.com, 
	kernel-team@...udflare.com, linux-mm@...ck.org, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH V2] cgroup/rstat: Avoid thundering herd problem by kswapd
 across NUMA nodes

On Mon, Jun 24, 2024 at 3:17 PM Shakeel Butt <shakeel.butt@...ux.dev> wrote:
>
> On Mon, Jun 24, 2024 at 02:43:02PM GMT, Yosry Ahmed wrote:
> [...]
> > >
> > > > There is also
> > > > a heuristic in zswap that may writeback more (or less) pages that it
> > > > should to the swap device if the stats are significantly stale.
> > > >
> > >
> > > Is this the ratio of MEMCG_ZSWAP_B and MEMCG_ZSWAPPED in
> > > zswap_shrinker_count()? There is already a target memcg flush in that
> > > function and I don't expect root memcg flush from there.
> >
> > I was thinking of the generic approach I suggested, where we can avoid
> > contending on the lock if the cgroup is a descendant of the cgroup
> > being flushed, regardless of whether or not it's the root memcg. I
> > think this would be more beneficial than just focusing on root
> > flushes.
>
> Yes I agree with this but what about skipping the flush in this case?
> Are you ok with that?

Sorry if I am confused, but IIUC this patch affects all root flushes,
even for userspace reads, right? In this case I think it's not okay to
skip the flush without waiting for the ongoing flush.