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Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2024 09:04:11 +0200
From: Pierre-Louis Bossart <pierre-louis.bossart@...ux.intel.com>
To: Guenter Roeck <linux@...ck-us.net>
Cc: Amadeusz Sławiński
 <amadeuszx.slawinski@...ux.intel.com>, Allen Ballway <ballway@...omium.org>,
 LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>, Brady Norander
 <bradynorander@...il.com>, Jaroslav Kysela <perex@...ex.cz>,
 Takashi Iwai <tiwai@...e.com>,
 Ranjani Sridharan <ranjani.sridharan@...ux.intel.com>,
 Mark Brown <broonie@...nel.org>, linux-sound@...r.kernel.org,
 Mark Hasemeyer <markhas@...omium.org>,
 Andy Shevchenko <andriy.shevchenko@...ux.intel.com>,
 Cezary Rojewski <cezary.rojewski@...el.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] ALSA: hda: intel-dsp-config: Fix Azulle Access 4 quirk
 detection



On 6/25/24 23:37, Guenter Roeck wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 21, 2024 at 10:35:31AM +0200, Pierre-Louis Bossart wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 6/21/24 08:15, Amadeusz Sławiński wrote:
>>> On 6/20/2024 9:27 PM, Allen Ballway wrote:
>>>> I filed a bug and after sharing the requested information it looks
>>>> like this device won't work on SOF without vendor support. Given this,
>>>> would the original patch returning this device to using HDAudio be
>>>> reasonable, or is there an preferred alternative to force this device
>>>> into using HDAudio?
>>>>
>>>
>>> And can you share link to the issue on mailing list, so someone reading
>>> this thread in the future doesn't have to guess where it is? ;)
>>
>> https://github.com/thesofproject/linux/issues/4981
>>
>> I don't know what to do with this configuration.
>> We added a quirk to force SOF to be used for ES8336 devices. It worked
>> for some, but not for others. Now we have quite a few ES8336-based
>> platforms that are broken with zero support from the vendor, with
>> obscure I2C/GPIO/clk issues.
>> Are we going to tag each one of them and say 'not supported, use HDMI only'?
>> That's pushing a bit the notion of quirk...It would generate an endless
>> stream of patches. The alternative is to do nothing and ask that those
>> platforms revert to HDMI audio only with a kernel parameter. That latter
>> alternative has my vote.
>>
> 
> Given that this apparently does not work for many ES8336 devices,
> would it make more sense to disable SOF support for those by default
> and _enable_ them with a kernel parameter ?

Some configurations work, so we would break them.

We tried to improve things by using ACPI information, but it turns out
some of the information is broken as well, so it's a multi-level chase
to figure out how the codec is wired (GPIOs mainly).

There's no good solution here.

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