linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH v2 00/15] Avoid MAP

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Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2024 09:31:16 -0400
From: "Liam R. Howlett" <Liam.Howlett@...cle.com>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>
Cc: linux-mm@...ck.org, Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@...gle.com>,
        Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@...e.cz>, Lorenzo Stoakes <lstoakes@...il.com>,
        Matthew Wilcox <willy@...radead.org>, sidhartha.kumar@...cle.com,
        "Paul E . McKenney" <paulmck@...nel.org>,
        Bert Karwatzki <spasswolf@....de>, Jiri Olsa <olsajiri@...il.com>,
        linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, Kees Cook <kees@...nel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 00/15] Avoid MAP_FIXED gap exposure

* Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org> [240626 21:28]:
> On Wed, 26 Jun 2024 21:15:18 -0400 "Liam R. Howlett" <Liam.Howlett@...cle.com> wrote:
> 
> > * Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org> [240626 16:59]:
> > > On Tue, 25 Jun 2024 15:11:30 -0400 "Liam R. Howlett" <Liam.Howlett@...cle.com> wrote:
> > > 
> > > > It is now possible to walk the vma tree using the rcu read locks and is
> > > > beneficial to do so to reduce lock contention.  Doing so while a
> > > > MAP_FIXED mapping is executing means that a reader may see a gap in the
> > > > vma tree that should never logically exist - and does not when using the
> > > > mmap lock in read mode.  The temporal gap exists because mmap_region()
> > > > calls munmap() prior to installing the new mapping.
> > > 
> > > What are the consequences when this race hits?  IOW, why do we need to
> > > change anything?
> > > 
> > 
> > In the (near) future, we want to walk the vma tree to produce
> > /proc/<pid>/maps.  Without this change we will see the temporal gap and
> > expose it to the user.  This series was initially sent to Suren as part
> > of his patch set.
> > 
> > We also have the new interface for an ioctl request to a vma at or above
> > an address. I had highlighted that an rcu reader would be ideal, but
> > proved too difficult at this time. These patches by Andrii are currently
> > not using the rcu reading method as this and a per-vma locking
> > clarification are needed.
> > 
> > Since there were two users for this code, I decided to send it out
> > before the other patches.
> 
> OK, thanks.  We're approaching -rc6 and things are a bit sketchy so I'm
> inclined to hold this off until the next cycle, unless there's urgency?
> 

There is no urgency.  I'm more than happy to hold off merging to get a
full cycle of testing.

Thanks,
Liam