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Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2024 17:47:56 +0200
From: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@...nel.org>
To: Daniel Lezcano <daniel.lezcano@...aro.org>
Cc: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@...nel.org>, linux-pm@...r.kernel.org,
Zhang Rui <rui.zhang@...el.com>, Lukasz Luba <lukasz.luba@....com>, Rob Herring <robh@...nel.org>,
Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzk+dt@...nel.org>, Conor Dooley <conor+dt@...nel.org>,
"open list:OPEN FIRMWARE AND FLATTENED DEVICE TREE BINDINGS" <devicetree@...r.kernel.org>, open list <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] thermal/core: Introduce user trip points
On Mon, Jul 1, 2024 at 5:13 PM Daniel Lezcano <daniel.lezcano@...aro.org> wrote:
>
> On 28/06/2024 15:56, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> > On Thu, Jun 27, 2024 at 10:55 AM Daniel Lezcano
> > <daniel.lezcano@...aro.org> wrote:
> >>
> >> Currently the thermal framework has 4 trip point types:
> >>
> >> - active : basically for fans (or anything requiring energy to cool
> >> down)
> >>
> >> - passive : a performance limiter
> >>
> >> - hot : for a last action before reaching critical
> >>
> >> - critical : a without return threshold leading to a system shutdown
> >>
> >> A thermal zone monitors the temperature regarding these trip
> >> points. The old way to do that is actively polling the temperature
> >> which is very bad for embedded systems, especially mobile and it is
> >> even worse today as we can have more than fifty thermal zones. The
> >> modern way is to rely on the driver to send an interrupt when the trip
> >> points are crossed, so the system can sleep while the temperature
> >> monitoring is offloaded to a dedicated hardware.
> >>
> >> However, the thermal aspect is also managed from userspace to protect
> >> the user, especially tracking down the skin temperature sensor. The
> >> logic is more complex than what we found in the kernel because it
> >> needs multiple sources indicating the thermal situation of the entire
> >> system.
> >>
> >> For this reason it needs to setup trip points at different levels in
> >> order to get informed about what is going on with some thermal zones
> >> when running some specific application.
> >>
> >> For instance, the skin temperature must be limited to 43°C on a long
> >> run but can go to 48°C for 10 minutes, or 60°C for 1 minute.
> >>
> >> The thermal engine must then rely on trip points to monitor those
> >> temperatures. Unfortunately, today there is only 'active' and
> >> 'passive' trip points which has a specific meaning for the kernel, not
> >> the userspace. That leads to hacks in different platforms for mobile
> >> and embedded systems where 'active' trip points are used to send
> >> notification to the userspace. This is obviously not right because
> >> these trip are handled by the kernel.
> >>
> >> This patch introduces the 'user' trip point type where its semantic is
> >> simple: do nothing at the kernel level, just send a notification to
> >> the user space.
> >>
> >> Signed-off-by: Daniel Lezcano <daniel.lezcano@...aro.org>
> >> ---
> >> .../devicetree/bindings/thermal/thermal-zones.yaml | 1 +
> >> drivers/thermal/thermal_core.c | 8 ++++++++
> >> drivers/thermal/thermal_of.c | 1 +
> >> drivers/thermal/thermal_trace.h | 4 +++-
> >> drivers/thermal/thermal_trip.c | 1 +
> >> include/uapi/linux/thermal.h | 1 +
> >> 6 files changed, 15 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
> >>
> >> diff --git a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/thermal/thermal-zones.yaml b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/thermal/thermal-zones.yaml
> >> index 68398e7e8655..cb9ea54a192e 100644
> >> --- a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/thermal/thermal-zones.yaml
> >> +++ b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/thermal/thermal-zones.yaml
> >> @@ -153,6 +153,7 @@ patternProperties:
> >> type:
> >> $ref: /schemas/types.yaml#/definitions/string
> >> enum:
> >> + - user # enable user notification
> >> - active # enable active cooling e.g. fans
> >> - passive # enable passive cooling e.g. throttling cpu
> >> - hot # send notification to driver
> >> diff --git a/drivers/thermal/thermal_core.c b/drivers/thermal/thermal_core.c
> >> index 2aa04c46a425..506f880d9aa9 100644
> >> --- a/drivers/thermal/thermal_core.c
> >> +++ b/drivers/thermal/thermal_core.c
> >> @@ -734,6 +734,14 @@ int thermal_bind_cdev_to_trip(struct thermal_zone_device *tz,
> >> if (tz != pos1 || cdev != pos2)
> >> return -EINVAL;
> >>
> >> + /*
> >> + * It is not allowed to bind a cooling device with a trip
> >> + * point user type because no mitigation should happen from
> >> + * the kernel with these trip points
> >> + */
> >> + if (trip->type == THERMAL_TRIP_USER)
> >> + return -EINVAL;
> >
> > Maybe print a debug message when bailing out here?
>
> After thinking a bit about the message, it sounds to me that is a really
> an error in the firmware if we end up binding an 'user' trip point.
>
> What about the following message:
>
> dev_err(tz->device, "Trying to bind the cooling device '%s' with an
> 'user' trip point id=%d", cdev->type, trip->id);
s/an// I think.
Also I wouldn't use dev_err() as it indicates a kernel issue. Maybe
dev_info(tz->device, FW_BUG ...)?
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