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Message-ID: <20240702191857.GJ11386@noisy.programming.kicks-ass.net>
Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2024 21:18:57 +0200
From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>
To: Andrii Nakryiko <andrii.nakryiko@...il.com>
Cc: "Paul E . McKenney" <paulmck@...nel.org>,
	Andrii Nakryiko <andrii@...nel.org>,
	linux-trace-kernel@...r.kernel.org, rostedt@...dmis.org,
	mhiramat@...nel.org, oleg@...hat.com, mingo@...hat.com,
	bpf@...r.kernel.org, jolsa@...nel.org, clm@...a.com,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 00/12] uprobes: add batched register/unregister APIs
 and per-CPU RW semaphore

On Tue, Jul 02, 2024 at 10:54:51AM -0700, Andrii Nakryiko wrote:

> > @@ -593,6 +595,12 @@ static struct uprobe *get_uprobe(struct uprobe *uprobe)
> >         return uprobe;
> >  }
> >
> > +static void uprobe_free_rcu(struct rcu_head *rcu)
> > +{
> > +       struct uprobe *uprobe = container_of(rcu, struct uprobe, rcu);
> > +       kfree(uprobe);
> > +}
> > +
> >  static void put_uprobe(struct uprobe *uprobe)
> >  {
> >         if (refcount_dec_and_test(&uprobe->ref)) {
> > @@ -604,7 +612,8 @@ static void put_uprobe(struct uprobe *uprobe)
> 
> right above this we have roughly this:
> 
> percpu_down_write(&uprobes_treelock);
> 
> /* refcount check */
> rb_erase(&uprobe->rb_node, &uprobes_tree);
> 
> percpu_up_write(&uprobes_treelock);
> 
> 
> This writer lock is necessary for modification of the RB tree. And I
> was under impression that I shouldn't be doing
> percpu_(down|up)_write() inside the normal
> rcu_read_lock()/rcu_read_unlock() region (percpu_down_write has
> might_sleep() in it). But maybe I'm wrong, hopefully Paul can help to
> clarify.

preemptible RCU or SRCU would work.

> 
> But actually what's wrong with RCU Tasks Trace flavor? 

Paul, isn't this the RCU flavour you created to deal with
!rcu_is_watching()? The flavour that never should have been created in
favour of just cleaning up the mess instead of making more.

> I will
> ultimately use it anyway to avoid uprobe taking unnecessary refcount
> and to protect uprobe->consumers iteration and uc->handler() calls,
> which could be sleepable, so would need rcu_read_lock_trace().

I don't think you need trace-rcu for that. SRCU would do nicely I think.

> >                 mutex_lock(&delayed_uprobe_lock);
> >                 delayed_uprobe_remove(uprobe, NULL);
> >                 mutex_unlock(&delayed_uprobe_lock);
> > -               kfree(uprobe);
> > +
> > +               call_rcu(&uprobe->rcu, uprobe_free_rcu);
> >         }
> >  }
> >
> > @@ -668,12 +677,25 @@ static struct uprobe *__find_uprobe(struct inode *inode, loff_t offset)
> >  static struct uprobe *find_uprobe(struct inode *inode, loff_t offset)
> >  {
> >         struct uprobe *uprobe;
> > +       unsigned seq;
> >
> > -       read_lock(&uprobes_treelock);
> > -       uprobe = __find_uprobe(inode, offset);
> > -       read_unlock(&uprobes_treelock);
> > +       guard(rcu)();
> >
> > -       return uprobe;
> > +       do {
> > +               seq = read_seqcount_begin(&uprobes_seqcount);
> > +               uprobes = __find_uprobe(inode, offset);
> > +               if (uprobes) {
> > +                       /*
> > +                        * Lockless RB-tree lookups are prone to false-negatives.
> > +                        * If they find something, it's good. If they do not find,
> > +                        * it needs to be validated.
> > +                        */
> > +                       return uprobes;
> > +               }
> > +       } while (read_seqcount_retry(&uprobes_seqcount, seq));
> > +
> > +       /* Really didn't find anything. */
> > +       return NULL;
> >  }
> 
> Honest question here, as I don't understand the tradeoffs well enough.
> Is there a lot of benefit to switching to seqcount lock vs using
> percpu RW semaphore (previously recommended by Ingo). The latter is a
> nice drop-in replacement and seems to be very fast and scale well.

As you noted, that percpu-rwsem write side is quite insane. And you're
creating this batch complexity to mitigate that.

The patches you propose are quite complex, this alternative not so much.

> Right now we are bottlenecked on uprobe->register_rwsem (not
> uprobes_treelock anymore), which is currently limiting the scalability
> of uprobes and I'm going to work on that next once I'm done with this
> series.

Right, but it looks fairly simple to replace that rwsem with a mutex and
srcu.

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