linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH v5 4/6] mm: shmem: add mTHP support for anonymous shmem

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Message-ID: <545e23ab-e40a-4f13-8167-c9aa85a34b19@linux.alibaba.com>
Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2024 16:57:59 +0800
From: Baolin Wang <baolin.wang@...ux.alibaba.com>
To: Ryan Roberts <ryan.roberts@....com>, Bang Li <libang.linux@...il.com>,
 akpm@...ux-foundation.org, hughd@...gle.com
Cc: willy@...radead.org, david@...hat.com, wangkefeng.wang@...wei.com,
 ying.huang@...el.com, 21cnbao@...il.com, shy828301@...il.com,
 ziy@...dia.com, ioworker0@...il.com, da.gomez@...sung.com,
 p.raghav@...sung.com, linux-mm@...ck.org, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 4/6] mm: shmem: add mTHP support for anonymous shmem



On 2024/7/5 16:42, Ryan Roberts wrote:
> On 05/07/2024 04:01, Baolin Wang wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 2024/7/4 22:46, Bang Li wrote:
>>> Hi Bao lin,
>>>
>>> On 2024/7/4 19:15, Baolin Wang wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> +
>>>>>> +    /*
>>>>>> +     * Only allow inherit orders if the top-level value is 'force', which
>>>>>> +     * means non-PMD sized THP can not override 'huge' mount option now.
>>>>>> +     */
>>>>>> +    if (shmem_huge == SHMEM_HUGE_FORCE)
>>>>>> +        return READ_ONCE(huge_shmem_orders_inherit);
>>>>>
>>>>> I vaguely recall that we originally discussed that trying to set 'force' on the
>>>>> top level control while any per-size controls were set to 'inherit' would be an
>>>>> error, and trying to set 'force' on any per-size control except the PMD-size
>>>>> would be an error?
>>>>
>>>> Right.
>>>>
>>>>> I don't really understand this logic. Shouldn't we just be looking at the
>>>>> per-size control settings (or the top-level control as a proxy for every
>>>>> per-size control that has 'inherit' set)?
>>>>
>>>> ‘force’ will apply the huge orders for anon shmem and tmpfs, so now we only
>>>> allow pmd-mapped THP to be forced. We should not look at per-size control
>>>> settings for tmpfs now (mTHP for tmpfs will be discussed in future).
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Then for tmpfs, which doesn't support non-PMD-sizes yet, we just always use the
>>>>> PMD-size control for decisions.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm also really struggling with the concept of shmem_is_huge() existing along
>>>>> side shmem_allowable_huge_orders(). Surely this needs to all be refactored into
>>>>> shmem_allowable_huge_orders()?
>>>>
>>>> I understood. But now they serve different purposes: shmem_is_huge() will be
>>>> used to check the huge orders for the top level, for *tmpfs* and anon shmem;
>>>> whereas shmem_allowable_huge_orders() will only be used to check the per-size
>>>> huge orders for anon shmem (excluding tmpfs now). However, as I plan to add
>>>> mTHP support for tmpfs, I think we can perform some cleanups.
>>>
>>> Please count me in, I'd be happy to contribute to the cleanup and enhancement
>>> process if I can.
>>
>> Good. If you have time, I think you can look at the shmem khugepaged issue from
>> the previous discussion [1], which I don't have time to look at now.
>>
>> "
>> (3) khugepaged
>>
>> khugepaged needs to handle larger folios properly as well. Until fixed,
>> using smaller THP sizes as fallback might prohibit collapsing a
>> PMD-sized THP later. But really, khugepaged needs to be fixed to handle
>> that.
>> "
> 
> khugepaged can already collapse "folios of any order less then PMD-size" to
> PMD-size, for anon memory. Infact I modified the selftest to be able to test
> that in commit 9f0704eae8a4 ("selftests/mm/khugepaged: enlighten for multi-size
> THP"). I'd be surprised if khugepaged can't alreay handle the same for shmem?

I did not test this, but from the comment in hpage_collapse_scan_file(), 
seems that compacting small mTHP into a single PMD-mapped THP is not 
supported yet.

/*
		 * TODO: khugepaged should compact smaller compound pages
		 * into a PMD sized page
		 */
		if (folio_test_large(folio)) {
			result = folio_order(folio) == HPAGE_PMD_ORDER &&
					folio->index == start
					/* Maybe PMD-mapped */
					? SCAN_PTE_MAPPED_HUGEPAGE
					: SCAN_PAGE_COMPOUND;
			/*
			 * For SCAN_PTE_MAPPED_HUGEPAGE, further processing
			 * by the caller won't touch the page cache, and so
			 * it's safe to skip LRU and refcount checks before
			 * returning.
			 */
			break;
		}

> Although the test will definitely want to be extended to test it.

Right.