linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH v21 1/4] mm: add VM_DROPPABLE for designating always lazily freeable mappings

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Message-ID: <Zo4BPjTIitoYSBMP@zx2c4.com>
Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2024 05:34:22 +0200
From: "Jason A. Donenfeld" <Jason@...c4.com>
To: David Hildenbrand <david@...hat.com>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, patches@...ts.linux.dev,
	tglx@...utronix.de, linux-crypto@...r.kernel.org,
	linux-api@...r.kernel.org, x86@...nel.org,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@...uxfoundation.org>,
	Adhemerval Zanella Netto <adhemerval.zanella@...aro.org>,
	Carlos O'Donell <carlos@...hat.com>,
	Florian Weimer <fweimer@...hat.com>, Arnd Bergmann <arnd@...db.de>,
	Jann Horn <jannh@...gle.com>,
	Christian Brauner <brauner@...nel.org>,
	David Hildenbrand <dhildenb@...hat.com>, linux-mm@...ck.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v21 1/4] mm: add VM_DROPPABLE for designating always
 lazily freeable mappings

On Wed, Jul 10, 2024 at 05:05:06AM +0200, David Hildenbrand wrote:
> On 09.07.24 04:17, Jason A. Donenfeld wrote:
> > Hi David,
> > 
> > On Mon, Jul 08, 2024 at 10:21:09PM +0200, David Hildenbrand wrote:
> >> BTW, I was just trying to understand how MADV_FREE + MAP_DROPPABLE would
> >> behave without any swap space around.
> >>
> >> Did you experiment with that?
> > 
> > You mean on a system without any swap configured? That's actually my
> > primary test environment for this. It behaves as expected: when ram
> > fills up and the scanner is trying to reclaim what it can,
> > folio_test_swapbacked(folio) is false, and the memory gets freed. After,
> > reads fault in a zero page. So it's working as expected.
> 
> Okay, just to be clear: no swap/zram/zswap. The reclaim code regarding 
> not scanning anonymous memory without swap was a bit confusing.

Right, no swap, as boring a system as can be. I've experimented with
that behavior on my swap-less 64GB thinkpad, as well as on little
special purpose VMs, where I hacked the VM_DROPPABLE test code into the
wireguard test suite.

Jason