Message-ID: <98423f21-c661-4d59-bc69-9958a69b2dd8@kernel.org>
Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2024 21:04:38 +0900
From: Damien Le Moal <dlemoal@...nel.org>
To: Johan Hovold <johan@...nel.org>
Cc: Johan Hovold <johan+linaro@...nel.org>,
 "James E.J. Bottomley" <James.Bottomley@...senPartnership.com>,
 "Martin K. Petersen" <martin.petersen@...cle.com>,
 Bart Van Assche <bvanassche@....org>, linux-scsi@...r.kernel.org,
 linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, stable@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Revert "scsi: sd: Do not repeat the starting disk
 message"

On 7/17/24 20:25, Johan Hovold wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 17, 2024 at 07:46:14PM +0900, Damien Le Moal wrote:
>> On 7/17/24 18:00, Johan Hovold wrote:
>>> On Wed, Jul 17, 2024 at 07:48:26AM +0900, Damien Le Moal wrote:
>>>> On 7/17/24 01:11, Johan Hovold wrote:
>>>>> This reverts commit 7a6bbc2829d4ab592c7e440a6f6f5deb3cd95db4.
>>>>>
>>>>> The offending commit tried to suppress a double "Starting disk" message
>>>>> for some drivers, but instead started spamming the log with bogus
>>>>> messages every five seconds:
>>>>>
>>>>> 	[  311.798956] sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] Starting disk
>>>>> 	[  316.919103] sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] Starting disk
>>>>> 	[  322.040775] sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] Starting disk
>>>>> 	[  327.161140] sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] Starting disk
>>>>> 	[  332.281352] sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] Starting disk
>>>>> 	[  337.401878] sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] Starting disk
>>>>> 	[  342.521527] sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] Starting disk
>>>>> 	[  345.850401] sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] Starting disk
>>>>> 	[  350.967132] sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] Starting disk
>>>>> 	[  356.090454] sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] Starting disk
>>>>> 	...
>>>>>
>>>>> on machines that do not actually stop the disk on runtime suspend (e.g.
>>>>> the Qualcomm sc8280xp CRD with UFS).
>>>>
>>>> This is odd. If the disk is not being being suspended, why does the platform
>>>> even enable runtime PM for it ? 
>>>
>>> This is clearly intended to be supported as sd_do_start_stop() returns
>>> false and that prevents sd_start_stop_device() from being called on
>>> resume (and similarly on suspend which is why there are no matching
>>> stopping disk messages above):
>>>
>>> 	[   32.822189] sd 0:0:0:0: sd_resume_common - runtime = 1, sd_do_start_stop = 0, manage_runtime_start_stop = 0
>>
>> Yes, so we can suppress the "Starting disk" message for runtime resume, to match
>> the runtime suspend not having the message.
> 
> No, the point is that the stopping disk message is also suppressed when
> sd_do_start_stop() returns false (i.e. when sd_start_stop_device() is
> never called). See sd_suspend_common().
> 
>>>> Are you sure about this ? Or is it simply that
>>>> the runtime pm timer is set to a very low interval ?
>>>
>>> I haven't tried to determine why runtime pm is used this way, but your
>>> patch is clearly broken as it prints a message about starting the disk
>>> even when sd_do_start_stop() returns false.
>>
>> The patch is not *that* broken, because sd_do_start_stop() returning false mean
>> only that the disk will *not* be started using a START STOP UNIT command. But
>> the underlying LLD must start the drive. So the message is not wrong, even
>> though it is probably best to suppress it for the runtime case.
> 
> From a quick look at the code I interpret the (original) intention to be
> to only print these messages in cases were sd_start_stop_device() is
> actually called.
>  
>> The point here is that sd_runtime_resume() should NOT be called every 5s unless
>> there is also a runtime suspend in between the calls. As mentioned, this can
>> happen if the autosuspend timer is set to a very low timeout to aggressively
>> suspend the disk after a short idle time. That of course makes absolutely no
>> sense for HDDs given the spinup time needed, but I guess that is a possiblity
>> for UFS drives.
> 
> I don't see anything obviously wrong with this for things like UFS.
> 
> Here's what some printk reveal for the Qualcomm platform in question:
> 
> [   50.659451] ufs_device_wlun 0:0:0:49488: ufshcd_wl_runtime_resume
> [   50.669756] sd 0:0:0:0: sd_resume_runtime
> [   52.911603] sd 0:0:0:0: sd_suspend_runtime
> [   52.921707] ufs_device_wlun 0:0:0:49488: ufshcd_wl_runtime_suspend
> [   53.472894] ufs_device_wlun 0:0:0:49488: ufshcd_wl_runtime_resume
> [   53.481464] sd 0:0:0:0: sd_resume_runtime
> [   55.550493] sd 0:0:0:0: sd_suspend_runtime
> [   55.559697] ufs_device_wlun 0:0:0:49488: ufshcd_wl_runtime_suspend
> [   58.595554] ufs_device_wlun 0:0:0:49488: ufshcd_wl_runtime_resume
> [   58.607868] sd 0:0:0:0: sd_resume_runtime
> [   60.667330] sd 0:0:0:0: sd_suspend_runtime
> [   60.677623] ufs_device_wlun 0:0:0:49488: ufshcd_wl_runtime_suspend
> [   63.714149] ufs_device_wlun 0:0:0:49488: ufshcd_wl_runtime_resume
> [   63.724498] sd 0:0:0:0: sd_resume_runtime
> [   65.772893] sd 0:0:0:0: sd_suspend_runtime
> [   65.784696] ufs_device_wlun 0:0:0:49488: ufshcd_wl_runtime_suspend
> [   68.836015] ufs_device_wlun 0:0:0:49488: ufshcd_wl_runtime_resume
> [   68.849576] sd 0:0:0:0: sd_resume_runtime
> [   71.359102] sd 0:0:0:0: sd_suspend_runtime
> [   71.368928] ufs_device_wlun 0:0:0:49488: ufshcd_wl_runtime_suspend
> [   73.955031] ufs_device_wlun 0:0:0:49488: ufshcd_wl_runtime_resume
> [   73.963040] sd 0:0:0:0: sd_resume_runtime
> [   76.032153] sd 0:0:0:0: sd_suspend_runtime
> [   76.042100] ufs_device_wlun 0:0:0:49488: ufshcd_wl_runtime_suspend
> 
> Looks like a 2-second autosuspend timeout somewhere, and the controller
> stays suspended for 1-3 seconds in between.

OK. So all good and nothing suspicious with this. That is only very aggressive
autosuspend. As I said, let's revert and I will rework the start/stop messages.

> 
>>>> It almost sound like what we need to do here is suppress this message for the
>>>> runtime resume case, so something like:
>>>
>>> No, that would only make things worse as I assume you'd have a stopped
>>> disk message without a matching start message for driver that do end up
>>> stopping the disk here.
>>
>> OK. so let's revert this patch and I will rework that message to be displayed
>> only on device removal, system suspend and system shutdown.
> 
> Sounds good.
> 
> Johan
> 

-- 
Damien Le Moal
Western Digital Research

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