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Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2024 13:28:02 -0300
From: Daniel Almeida <dwlsalmeida@...il.com>
To: Benno Lossin <benno.lossin@...ton.me>
Cc: Jonathan Corbet <corbet@....net>,
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Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 2/5] doc: rust: safety standard: add examples

Hi Benno,

> On 17 Jul 2024, at 19:12, Benno Lossin <benno.lossin@...ton.me> wrote:
> 
> Add examples of good and bad safety documentation.
> 
> There aren't many examples at the moment, as I hope to add more during
> discussions, since coming up with examples on my own is very difficult.
> 
> Signed-off-by: Benno Lossin <benno.lossin@...ton.me>
> ---
> .../rust/safety-standard/examples.rst         | 70 +++++++++++++++++++
> Documentation/rust/safety-standard/index.rst  | 23 ++++--
> 2 files changed, 86 insertions(+), 7 deletions(-)
> create mode 100644 Documentation/rust/safety-standard/examples.rst
> 
> diff --git a/Documentation/rust/safety-standard/examples.rst b/Documentation/rust/safety-standard/examples.rst
> new file mode 100644
> index 000000000000..d66ef3f8954a
> --- /dev/null
> +++ b/Documentation/rust/safety-standard/examples.rst
> @@ -0,0 +1,70 @@
> +.. SPDX-License-Identifier: GPL-2.0
> +.. highlight:: rust
> +
> +Examples
> +========
> +
> +Unsound APIs
> +------------
> +
> +Simple Unsound Function
> +***********************
> +::
> +
> +    struct Data {
> +        a: usize,
> +    }
> +
> +    fn access_a(data: *mut Data) -> usize {
> +        unsafe { (*data).a }
> +    }
> +
> +One would normally call this function as follows, which does not trigger UB::
> +
> +    fn main() {
> +        let mut d = Data { a: 42 };
> +        println!("{}", access_a(&mut d));
> +    }
> +
> +However, a caller could also call it like this, which triggers UB using only safe code::
> +
> +    fn main() {
> +        println!("{}", access_a(core::ptr::null_mut()));
> +    }
> +
> +And this would result in a dereference of a null pointer.
> +
> +
> +Sound ``unsafe`` Code
> +---------------------
> +
> +The Importance of the API Boundary
> +**********************************
> +
> +Is the following API sound?::
> +
> +    fn foo(r: &mut u32) {
> +        let ptr: *mut u32 = r;
> +        let val;
> +        unsafe {
> +            val = *ptr;
> +            *ptr = 0;
> +        }
> +    }
> +
> +It better be sound, but one could argue that it is unsound, since one could replace the ptr
> +initialization by ``ptr = core::ptr::null_mut()``::
> +
> +    fn foo(r: &mut u32) {
> +        let ptr: *mut u32 = core::ptr::null_mut();
> +        let val;
> +        unsafe {
> +            val = *ptr;
> +            *ptr = 0;
> +        }
> +    }
> +
> +But this modification is not allowed, since it goes beyond the API boundary of ``foo``. This way
> +any ``unsafe`` code that relies on surrounding safe code could be shown to be unsound. Instead one
> +should only consider safe code using the API, in this case, there is no way to make the code
> +incorrect, since a reference is always valid to dereference during its lifetime.

I find this paragraph a bit confusing. Maybe this can be clarified a bit further?

> diff --git a/Documentation/rust/safety-standard/index.rst b/Documentation/rust/safety-standard/index.rst
> index 1cbc8d3dea04..bebebda06831 100644
> --- a/Documentation/rust/safety-standard/index.rst
> +++ b/Documentation/rust/safety-standard/index.rst
> @@ -92,21 +92,28 @@ And this would result in a dereference of a null pointer.
> In its essence, a sound API means that if someone only writes safe code, they can never encounter UB
> even if they call safe code that calls ``unsafe`` code behind the scenes.
> 
> +For more examples of unsound code see examples.rst.
> +
> Because unsoundness issues have the potential for allowing safe code to experience UB, they are
> -treated similarly to actual bugs with UB. Their fixes should also be included in the  stable tree.
> +treated similarly to real UB. Their fixes should also be included in the stable tree.
> 
> Safety Documentation
> ====================
> 
> -After trying to minimize and remove as much ``unsafe`` code as possible, there still is some left.
> -This is because some things are just not possible in only safe code. This last part of ``unsafe``
> -code must still be correct. Helping with that is the safety documentation: it meticulously documents
> -the various requirements and justifications for every line of ``unsafe`` code. That way it can be
> -ensured that all ``unsafe`` code is sound without anyone needing to know the whole kernel at once.
> +No matter how hard one tries to remove ``unsafe`` code, it is impossible to completely get rid of it
> +in the Kernel. There are things that are impossible for safe code. For example interacting with the
> +C side. So one can never be completely sure that there are no memory issues lurking somewhere.
> +
> +This is where safety documentation helps: it meticulously documents the various requirements and
> +justifications for every line of ``unsafe`` code. That way the risk of writing unsound ``unsafe``
> +code is reduced drastically.
> +
> The gist of the idea is this: every ``unsafe`` operation documents its requirements and every
> location that uses an ``unsafe`` operation documents for every requirement a justification why they
> are fulfilled. If now all requirements and justifications are correct, then there can only be sound
> -``unsafe`` code.
> +``unsafe`` code. Reducing the global problem of correctness of the whole kernel to the correctness
> +of each and every ``unsafe`` code block makes it a local problem. Local problems are a lot easier to
> +handle, since each instance can be fixed/reviewed independently.
> 
> The ``unsafe`` keywords has two different meanings depending on the context it is used in:
> 
> @@ -238,6 +245,8 @@ Further Pages
> .. toctree::
>    :maxdepth: 1
> 
> +   examples
> +
> .. only::  subproject and html
> 
>    Indices
> -- 
> 2.45.1
> 
> 

— Daniel

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