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Message-ID: <d673ec04-5445-6233-81e2-49863d044bf0@loongson.cn>
Date: Tue, 6 Aug 2024 09:16:30 +0800
From: maobibo <maobibo@...ngson.cn>
To: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@...gle.com>
Cc: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@...hat.com>, Marc Zyngier <maz@...nel.org>,
Oliver Upton <oliver.upton@...ux.dev>, Tianrui Zhao
<zhaotianrui@...ngson.cn>, Huacai Chen <chenhuacai@...nel.org>,
Michael Ellerman <mpe@...erman.id.au>, Anup Patel <anup@...infault.org>,
Paul Walmsley <paul.walmsley@...ive.com>, Palmer Dabbelt
<palmer@...belt.com>, Albert Ou <aou@...s.berkeley.edu>,
Christian Borntraeger <borntraeger@...ux.ibm.com>,
Janosch Frank <frankja@...ux.ibm.com>,
Claudio Imbrenda <imbrenda@...ux.ibm.com>, kvm@...r.kernel.org,
linux-arm-kernel@...ts.infradead.org, kvmarm@...ts.linux.dev,
loongarch@...ts.linux.dev, linux-mips@...r.kernel.org,
linuxppc-dev@...ts.ozlabs.org, kvm-riscv@...ts.infradead.org,
linux-riscv@...ts.infradead.org, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
David Matlack <dmatlack@...gle.com>, David Stevens <stevensd@...omium.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v12 64/84] KVM: LoongArch: Mark "struct page" pfns dirty
only in "slow" page fault path
On 2024/8/6 上午7:22, Sean Christopherson wrote:
> On Sat, Aug 03, 2024, maobibo wrote:
>> On 2024/8/3 上午3:32, Sean Christopherson wrote:
>>> On Fri, Aug 02, 2024, maobibo wrote:
>>>> On 2024/7/27 上午7:52, Sean Christopherson wrote:
>>>>> Mark pages/folios dirty only the slow page fault path, i.e. only when
>>>>> mmu_lock is held and the operation is mmu_notifier-protected, as marking a
>>>>> page/folio dirty after it has been written back can make some filesystems
>>>>> unhappy (backing KVM guests will such filesystem files is uncommon, and
>>>>> the race is minuscule, hence the lack of complaints).
>>>>>
>>>>> See the link below for details.
>>>>>
>>>>> Link: https://lore.kernel.org/all/cover.1683044162.git.lstoakes@gmail.com
>>>>> Signed-off-by: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@...gle.com>
>>>>> ---
>>>>> arch/loongarch/kvm/mmu.c | 18 ++++++++++--------
>>>>> 1 file changed, 10 insertions(+), 8 deletions(-)
>>>>>
>>>>> diff --git a/arch/loongarch/kvm/mmu.c b/arch/loongarch/kvm/mmu.c
>>>>> index 2634a9e8d82c..364dd35e0557 100644
>>>>> --- a/arch/loongarch/kvm/mmu.c
>>>>> +++ b/arch/loongarch/kvm/mmu.c
>>>>> @@ -608,13 +608,13 @@ static int kvm_map_page_fast(struct kvm_vcpu *vcpu, unsigned long gpa, bool writ
>>>>> if (kvm_pte_young(changed))
>>>>> kvm_set_pfn_accessed(pfn);
>>>>> - if (kvm_pte_dirty(changed)) {
>>>>> - mark_page_dirty(kvm, gfn);
>>>>> - kvm_set_pfn_dirty(pfn);
>>>>> - }
>>>>> if (page)
>>>>> put_page(page);
>>>>> }
>>>>> +
>>>>> + if (kvm_pte_dirty(changed))
>>>>> + mark_page_dirty(kvm, gfn);
>>>>> +
>>>>> return ret;
>>>>> out:
>>>>> spin_unlock(&kvm->mmu_lock);
>>>>> @@ -915,12 +915,14 @@ static int kvm_map_page(struct kvm_vcpu *vcpu, unsigned long gpa, bool write)
>>>>> else
>>>>> ++kvm->stat.pages;
>>>>> kvm_set_pte(ptep, new_pte);
>>>>> - spin_unlock(&kvm->mmu_lock);
>>>>> - if (prot_bits & _PAGE_DIRTY) {
>>>>> - mark_page_dirty_in_slot(kvm, memslot, gfn);
>>>>> + if (writeable)
>>>> Is it better to use write or (prot_bits & _PAGE_DIRTY) here? writable is
>>>> pte permission from function hva_to_pfn_slow(), write is fault action.
>>>
>>> Marking folios dirty in the slow/full path basically necessitates marking the
>>> folio dirty if KVM creates a writable SPTE, as KVM won't mark the folio dirty
>>> if/when _PAGE_DIRTY is set.
>>>
>>> Practically speaking, I'm 99.9% certain it doesn't matter. The folio is marked
>>> dirty by core MM when the folio is made writable, and cleaning the folio triggers
>>> an mmu_notifier invalidation. I.e. if the page is mapped writable in KVM's
>> yes, it is. Thanks for the explanation. kvm_set_pfn_dirty() can be put only
>> in slow page fault path. I only concern with fault type, read fault type can
>> set pte entry writable however not _PAGE_DIRTY at stage-2 mmu table.
>>
>>> stage-2 PTEs, then its folio has already been marked dirty.
>> Considering one condition although I do not know whether it exists actually.
>> user mode VMM writes the folio with hva address firstly, then VCPU thread
>> *reads* the folio. With primary mmu table, pte entry is writable and
>> _PAGE_DIRTY is set, with secondary mmu table(state-2 PTE table), it is
>> pte_none since the filio is accessed at first time, so there will be slow
>> page fault path for stage-2 mmu page table filling.
>>
>> Since it is read fault, stage-2 PTE will be created with _PAGE_WRITE(coming
>> from function hva_to_pfn_slow()), however _PAGE_DIRTY is not set. Do we need
>> call kvm_set_pfn_dirty() at this situation?
>
> If KVM doesn't mark the folio dirty when the stage-2 _PAGE_DIRTY flag is set,
> i.e. as proposed in this series, then yes, KVM needs to call kvm_set_pfn_dirty()
> even though the VM hasn't (yet) written to the memory. In practice, KVM calling
> kvm_set_pfn_dirty() is redundant the majority of the time, as the stage-1 PTE
> will have _PAGE_DIRTY set, and that will get propagated to the folio when the
> primary MMU does anything relevant with the PTE. And for file systems that care
> about writeback, odds are very good that the folio was marked dirty even earlier,
> when MM invoked vm_operations_struct.page_mkwrite().
>
> The reason I am pushing to have all architectures mark pages/folios dirty in the
> slow page fault path is that a false positive (marking a folio dirty without the
> folio ever being written in _any_ context since the last pte_mkclean()) is rare,
> and at worst results an unnecessary writeback. On the other hand, marking folios
It does not influence the result. At worst there is one unnecessary
kvm_set_pfn_dirty() before the last pte_mkclean(). That is ok for me,
and thanks for your detailed explanation.
> dirty in fast page fault handlers (or anywhere else that isn't protected by
> mmu_notifiers) is technically unsafe.
yeap, moving marking folios dirty to slow fault handler makes logic
clear and simple here, and technically safer.
Regards
Bibo Mao
>
> In other words, the intent is to sacrifice accuracy to improve stability/robustness,
> because the vast majority of time the loss in accuracy has no effect, and the worst
> case scenario is that the kernel does I/O that wasn't necessary.
>
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