linux-kernel - Re: [xdp-hints] Re: [PATCH RFC bpf-next 32/52] bpf, cpumap: switch to GRO from netif_receive_skb

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Message-Id: <308fd4f1-83a9-4b74-a482-216c8211a028@app.fastmail.com>
Date: Thu, 08 Aug 2024 16:52:51 -0400
From: "Daniel Xu" <dxu@...uu.xyz>
To: "Alexander Lobakin" <aleksander.lobakin@...el.com>,
 "Lorenzo Bianconi" <lorenzo.bianconi@...hat.com>
Cc: "Alexander Lobakin" <alexandr.lobakin@...el.com>,
 "Alexei Starovoitov" <ast@...nel.org>,
 "Daniel Borkmann" <daniel@...earbox.net>,
 "Andrii Nakryiko" <andrii@...nel.org>,
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 "Jonathan Lemon" <jonathan.lemon@...il.com>,
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 "Lorenzo Bianconi" <lorenzo@...nel.org>,
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 linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, xdp-hints@...-project.net
Subject: Re: [xdp-hints] Re: [PATCH RFC bpf-next 32/52] bpf, cpumap: switch to GRO from
 netif_receive_skb_list()

Hi,

On Thu, Aug 8, 2024, at 7:57 AM, Alexander Lobakin wrote:
> From: Lorenzo Bianconi <lorenzo.bianconi@...hat.com>
> Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2024 06:54:06 +0200
>
>>> Hi Alexander,
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jun 28, 2022, at 12:47 PM, Alexander Lobakin wrote:
>>>> cpumap has its own BH context based on kthread. It has a sane batch
>>>> size of 8 frames per one cycle.
>>>> GRO can be used on its own, adjust cpumap calls to the
>>>> upper stack to use GRO API instead of netif_receive_skb_list() which
>>>> processes skbs by batches, but doesn't involve GRO layer at all.
>>>> It is most beneficial when a NIC which frame come from is XDP
>>>> generic metadata-enabled, but in plenty of tests GRO performs better
>>>> than listed receiving even given that it has to calculate full frame
>>>> checksums on CPU.
>>>> As GRO passes the skbs to the upper stack in the batches of
>>>> @gro_normal_batch, i.e. 8 by default, and @skb->dev point to the
>>>> device where the frame comes from, it is enough to disable GRO
>>>> netdev feature on it to completely restore the original behaviour:
>>>> untouched frames will be being bulked and passed to the upper stack
>>>> by 8, as it was with netif_receive_skb_list().
>>>>
>>>> Signed-off-by: Alexander Lobakin <alexandr.lobakin@...el.com>
>>>> ---
>>>>  kernel/bpf/cpumap.c | 43 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++-----
>>>>  1 file changed, 38 insertions(+), 5 deletions(-)
>>>>
>>>
>>> AFAICT the cpumap + GRO is a good standalone improvement. I think
>>> cpumap is still missing this.
>
> The only concern for having GRO in cpumap without metadata from the NIC
> descriptor was that when the checksum status is missing, GRO calculates
> the checksum on CPU, which is not really fast.
> But I remember sometimes GRO was faster despite that.

Good to know, thanks. IIUC some kind of XDP hint support landed already?

My use case could also use HW RSS hash to avoid a rehash in XDP prog.
And HW RX timestamp to not break SO_TIMESTAMPING. These two
are on one of my TODO lists. But I can’t get to them for at least
a few weeks. So free to take it if you’d like.

>
>>>
>>> I have a production use case for this now. We want to do some intelligent
>>> RX steering and I think GRO would help over list-ified receive in some cases.
>>> We would prefer steer in HW (and thus get existing GRO support) but not all
>>> our NICs support it. So we need a software fallback.
>>>
>>> Are you still interested in merging the cpumap + GRO patches?
>
> For sure I can revive this part. I was planning to get back to this
> branch and pick patches which were not related to XDP hints and send
> them separately.
>
>> 
>> Hi Daniel and Alex,
>> 
>> Recently I worked on a PoC to add GRO support to cpumap codebase:
>> - https://github.com/LorenzoBianconi/bpf-next/commit/a4b8264d5000ecf016da5a2dd9ac302deaf38b3e
>>   Here I added GRO support to cpumap through gro-cells.
>> - https://github.com/LorenzoBianconi/bpf-next/commit/da6cb32a4674aa72401c7414c9a8a0775ef41a55
>>   Here I added GRO support to cpumap trough napi-threaded APIs (with a some
>>   changes to them).
>
> Hmm, when I was testing it, adding a whole NAPI to cpumap was sorta
> overkill, that's why I separated GRO structure from &napi_struct.
>
> Let me maybe find some free time, I would then test all 3 solutions
> (mine, gro_cells, threaded NAPI) and pick/send the best?

Sounds good. Would be good to compare results.

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Thanks,
Daniel