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Message-ID: <CAOUHufYj1oHVy1OnqVMqsYbtMTqyCo-19ZH-UOiz46KDrp8m3w@mail.gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2024 11:43:52 -0600
From: Yu Zhao <yuzhao@...gle.com>
To: Usama Arif <usamaarif642@...il.com>
Cc: Bharata B Rao <bharata@....com>, linux-mm@...ck.org, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, 
	nikunj@....com, "Upadhyay, Neeraj" <Neeraj.Upadhyay@....com>, 
	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>, David Hildenbrand <david@...hat.com>, willy@...radead.org, 
	vbabka@...e.cz, kinseyho@...gle.com, Mel Gorman <mgorman@...e.de>, leitao@...ian.org
Subject: Re: Hard and soft lockups with FIO and LTP runs on a large system

On Tue, Aug 13, 2024 at 5:04 AM Usama Arif <usamaarif642@...il.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> On 09/07/2024 06:58, Yu Zhao wrote:
> > On Mon, Jul 8, 2024 at 10:31 PM Bharata B Rao <bharata@....com> wrote:
> >>
> >> On 08-Jul-24 9:47 PM, Yu Zhao wrote:
> >>> On Mon, Jul 8, 2024 at 8:34 AM Bharata B Rao <bharata@....com> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Hi Yu Zhao,
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks for your patches. See below...
> >>>>
> >>>> On 07-Jul-24 4:12 AM, Yu Zhao wrote:
> >>>>> Hi Bharata,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Wed, Jul 3, 2024 at 9:11 AM Bharata B Rao <bharata@....com> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>> <snip>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Some experiments tried
> >>>>>> ======================
> >>>>>> 1) When MGLRU was enabled many soft lockups were observed, no hard
> >>>>>> lockups were seen for 48 hours run. Below is once such soft lockup.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> This is not really an MGLRU issue -- can you please try one of the
> >>>>> attached patches? It (truncate.patch) should help with or without
> >>>>> MGLRU.
> >>>>
> >>>> With truncate.patch and default LRU scheme, a few hard lockups are seen.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks.
> >>>
> >>> In your original report, you said:
> >>>
> >>>    Most of the times the two contended locks are lruvec and
> >>>    inode->i_lock spinlocks.
> >>>    ...
> >>>    Often times, the perf output at the time of the problem shows
> >>>    heavy contention on lruvec spin lock. Similar contention is
> >>>    also observed with inode i_lock (in clear_shadow_entry path)
> >>>
> >>> Based on this new report, does it mean the i_lock is not as contended,
> >>> for the same path (truncation) you tested? If so, I'll post
> >>> truncate.patch and add reported-by and tested-by you, unless you have
> >>> objections.
> >>
> >> truncate.patch has been tested on two systems with default LRU scheme
> >> and the lockup due to inode->i_lock hasn't been seen yet after 24 hours run.
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> >>>
> >>> The two paths below were contended on the LRU lock, but they already
> >>> batch their operations. So I don't know what else we can do surgically
> >>> to improve them.
> >>
> >> What has been seen with this workload is that the lruvec spinlock is
> >> held for a long time from shrink_[active/inactive]_list path. In this
> >> path, there is a case in isolate_lru_folios() where scanning of LRU
> >> lists can become unbounded. To isolate a page from ZONE_DMA, sometimes
> >> scanning/skipping of more than 150 million folios were seen. There is
> >> already a comment in there which explains why nr_skipped shouldn't be
> >> counted, but is there any possibility of re-looking at this condition?
> >
> > For this specific case, probably this can help:
> >
> > @@ -1659,8 +1659,15 @@ static unsigned long
> > isolate_lru_folios(unsigned long nr_to_scan,
> >                 if (folio_zonenum(folio) > sc->reclaim_idx ||
> >                                 skip_cma(folio, sc)) {
> >                         nr_skipped[folio_zonenum(folio)] += nr_pages;
> > -                       move_to = &folios_skipped;
> > -                       goto move;
> > +                       list_move(&folio->lru, &folios_skipped);
> > +                       if (spin_is_contended(&lruvec->lru_lock)) {
> > +                               if (!list_empty(dst))
> > +                                       break;
> > +                               spin_unlock_irq(&lruvec->lru_lock);
> > +                               cond_resched();
> > +                               spin_lock_irq(&lruvec->lru_lock);
> > +                       }
> > +                       continue;

Nitpick:

if () {
  ...
  if (!spin_is_contended(&lruvec->lru_lock))
    continue;

  if (!list_empty(dst))
    break;

  spin_unlock_irq(&lruvec->lru_lock);
  cond_resched();
  spin_lock_irq(&lruvec->lru_lock);
}


> Hi Yu,
>
> We are seeing lockups and high memory pressure in Meta production due to this lock contention as well. My colleague highlighted it in https://lore.kernel.org/all/ZrssOrcJIDy8hacI@gmail.com/ and was pointed to this fix.
>
> We removed skip_cma check as a temporary measure, but this is a proper fix. I might have missed it but didn't see this as a patch on the mailing list. Just wanted to check if you were planning to send it as a patch? Happy to send it on your behalf as well.

Please. Thank you.

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