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Message-ID: <CAEf4BzaQi8mUW+1DJZvO+D5SXHTj5q7J6WmnP8FvLWXuiFHPvQ@mail.gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2024 09:53:50 -0700
From: Andrii Nakryiko <andrii.nakryiko@...il.com>
To: "Liao, Chang" <liaochang1@...wei.com>
Cc: peterz@...radead.org, mingo@...hat.com, acme@...nel.org, 
	namhyung@...nel.org, mark.rutland@....com, alexander.shishkin@...ux.intel.com, 
	jolsa@...nel.org, irogers@...gle.com, adrian.hunter@...el.com, 
	kan.liang@...ux.intel.com, 
	"oleg@...hat.com >> Oleg Nesterov" <oleg@...hat.com>, Andrii Nakryiko <andrii@...nel.org>, 
	Masami Hiramatsu <mhiramat@...nel.org>, Steven Rostedt <rostedt@...dmis.org>, paulmck@...nel.org, 
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, linux-perf-users@...r.kernel.org, 
	bpf@...r.kernel.org, linux-trace-kernel@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] uprobes: Optimize the allocation of insn_slot for performance

On Wed, Aug 14, 2024 at 7:58 PM Liao, Chang <liaochang1@...wei.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> 在 2024/8/15 2:42, Andrii Nakryiko 写道:
> > On Tue, Aug 13, 2024 at 9:17 PM Liao, Chang <liaochang1@...wei.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> 在 2024/8/13 1:49, Andrii Nakryiko 写道:
> >>> On Mon, Aug 12, 2024 at 4:11 AM Liao, Chang <liaochang1@...wei.com> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> 在 2024/8/9 2:26, Andrii Nakryiko 写道:
> >>>>> On Thu, Aug 8, 2024 at 1:45 AM Liao, Chang <liaochang1@...wei.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Hi Andrii and Oleg.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> This patch sent by me two weeks ago also aim to optimize the performance of uprobe
> >>>>>> on arm64. I notice recent discussions on the performance and scalability of uprobes
> >>>>>> within the mailing list. Considering this interest, I've added you and other relevant
> >>>>>> maintainers to the CC list for broader visibility and potential collaboration.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Hi Liao,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> As you can see there is an active work to improve uprobes, that
> >>>>> changes lifetime management of uprobes, removes a bunch of locks taken
> >>>>> in the uprobe/uretprobe hot path, etc. It would be nice if you can
> >>>>> hold off a bit with your changes until all that lands. And then
> >>>>> re-benchmark, as costs might shift.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> But also see some remarks below.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Thanks.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> 在 2024/7/27 17:44, Liao Chang 写道:
> >>>>>>> The profiling result of single-thread model of selftests bench reveals
> >>>>>>> performance bottlenecks in find_uprobe() and caches_clean_inval_pou() on
> >>>>>>> ARM64. On my local testing machine, 5% of CPU time is consumed by
> >>>>>>> find_uprobe() for trig-uprobe-ret, while caches_clean_inval_pou() take
> >>>>>>> about 34% of CPU time for trig-uprobe-nop and trig-uprobe-push.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> This patch introduce struct uprobe_breakpoint to track previously
> >>>>>>> allocated insn_slot for frequently hit uprobe. it effectively reduce the
> >>>>>>> need for redundant insn_slot writes and subsequent expensive cache
> >>>>>>> flush, especially on architecture like ARM64. This patch has been tested
> >>>>>>> on Kunpeng916 (Hi1616), 4 NUMA nodes, 64 cores@ 2.4GHz. The selftest
> >>>>>>> bench and Redis GET/SET benchmark result below reveal obivious
> >>>>>>> performance gain.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> before-opt
> >>>>>>> ----------
> >>>>>>> trig-uprobe-nop:  0.371 ± 0.001M/s (0.371M/prod)
> >>>>>>> trig-uprobe-push: 0.370 ± 0.001M/s (0.370M/prod)
> >>>>>>> trig-uprobe-ret:  1.637 ± 0.001M/s (1.647M/prod)
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I'm surprised that nop and push variants are much slower than ret
> >>>>> variant. This is exactly opposite on x86-64. Do you have an
> >>>>> explanation why this might be happening? I see you are trying to
> >>>>> optimize xol_get_insn_slot(), but that is (at least for x86) a slow
> >>>>> variant of uprobe that normally shouldn't be used. Typically uprobe is
> >>>>> installed on nop (for USDT) and on function entry (which would be push
> >>>>> variant, `push %rbp` instruction).
> >>>>>
> >>>>> ret variant, for x86-64, causes one extra step to go back to user
> >>>>> space to execute original instruction out-of-line, and then trapping
> >>>>> back to kernel for running uprobe. Which is what you normally want to
> >>>>> avoid.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> What I'm getting at here. It seems like maybe arm arch is missing fast
> >>>>> emulated implementations for nops/push or whatever equivalents for
> >>>>> ARM64 that is. Please take a look at that and see why those are slow
> >>>>> and whether you can make those into fast uprobe cases?
> >>>>
> >>>> Hi Andrii,
> >>>>
> >>>> As you correctly pointed out, the benchmark result on Arm64 is counterintuitive
> >>>> compared to X86 behavior. My investigation revealed that the root cause lies in
> >>>> the arch_uprobe_analyse_insn(), which excludes the Arm64 equvialents instructions
> >>>> of 'nop' and 'push' from the emulatable instruction list. This forces the kernel
> >>>> to handle these instructions out-of-line in userspace upon breakpoint exception
> >>>> is handled, leading to a significant performance overhead compared to 'ret' variant,
> >>>> which is already emulated.
> >>>>
> >>>> To address this issue, I've developed a patch supports  the emulation of 'nop' and
> >>>> 'push' variants. The benchmark results below indicates the performance gain of
> >>>> emulation is obivious.
> >>>>
> >>>> xol (1 cpus)
> >>>> ------------
> >>>> uprobe-nop:  0.916 ± 0.001M/s (0.916M/prod)
> >>>> uprobe-push: 0.908 ± 0.001M/s (0.908M/prod)
> >>>> uprobe-ret:  1.855 ± 0.000M/s (1.855M/prod)
> >>>> uretprobe-nop:  0.640 ± 0.000M/s (0.640M/prod)
> >>>> uretprobe-push: 0.633 ± 0.001M/s (0.633M/prod)
> >>>> uretprobe-ret:  0.978 ± 0.003M/s (0.978M/prod)
> >>>>
> >>>> emulation (1 cpus)
> >>>> -------------------
> >>>> uprobe-nop:  1.862 ± 0.002M/s  (1.862M/s/cpu)
> >>>> uprobe-push: 1.743 ± 0.006M/s  (1.743M/s/cpu)
> >>>> uprobe-ret:  1.840 ± 0.001M/s  (1.840M/s/cpu)
> >>>> uretprobe-nop:  0.964 ± 0.004M/s  (0.964M/s/cpu)
> >>>> uretprobe-push: 0.936 ± 0.004M/s  (0.936M/s/cpu)
> >>>> uretprobe-ret:  0.940 ± 0.001M/s  (0.940M/s/cpu)
> >>>>
> >>>> As you can see, the performance gap between nop/push and ret variants has been significantly
> >>>> reduced. Due to the emulation of 'push' instruction need to access userspace memory, it spent
> >>>> more cycles than the other.
> >>>
> >>> Great, it's an obvious improvement. Are you going to send patches
> >>> upstream? Please cc bpf@...r.kernel.org as well.
> >>
> >> I'll need more time to thoroughly test this patch. The emulation o push/nop
> >> instructions also impacts the kprobe/kretprobe paths on Arm64, As as result,
> >> I'm working on enhancements to trig-kprobe/kretprobe to prevent performance
> >> regression.
> >
> > Why would the *benchmarks* have to be modified? The typical
> > kprobe/kretprobe attachment should be fast, and those benchmarks
> > simulate typical fast path kprobe/kretprobe. Is there some simulation
> > logic that is shared between uprobes and kprobes or something?
>
> Yes, kprobe and uprobe share many things for Arm64, but there are curical
> difference. Let me explain further. Simulating a 'push' instruction on
> arm64 will modify the stack pointer at *probe breakpoint. However, kprobe
> and uprobe use different way to restore the stack pointer upon returning
> from the breakpoint exception. Consequently.sharing the same simulation
> logic for both would result in kernel panic for kprobe.
>
> To avoid complicating the exception return logic, I've opted to simuate
> 'push' only for uprobe and maintain the single-stepping for kprobe [0].
> This trade-off avoid the impacts to kprobe/kretprobe, and no need to
> change the kprobe/kretprobe related benchmark.
>

I see, thanks for explaining. I noticed the "bool kernel" flag you
added, it makes sense.

I still don't understand why you'd need to modify kprobe/kretprobe
benchmarks, as they are testing attaching kprobe at the kernel
function entry, which for kernels should be an optimized case not
requiring any emulation.

> [0] https://lore.kernel.org/all/20240814080356.2639544-1-liaochang1@huawei.com/
>
> >
> >>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I'm also thinking we should update uprobe/uretprobe benchmarks to be
> >>> less x86-specific. Right now "-nop" is the happy fastest case, "-push"
> >>> is still happy, slightly slower case (due to the need to emulate stack
> >>> operation) and "-ret" is meant to be the slow single-step case. We
> >>> should adjust the naming and make sure that on ARM64 we hit similar
> >>> code paths. Given you seem to know arm64 pretty well, can you please
> >>> take a look at updating bench tool for ARM64 (we can also rename
> >>> benchmarks to something a bit more generic, rather than using
> >>> instruction names)?
> >>
> >
> > [...]
>
> --
> BR
> Liao, Chang

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