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Message-ID: <700df4cb.6db3.191791cef04.Coremail.00107082@163.com>
Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2024 16:03:45 +0800 (CST)
From: "David Wang" <00107082@....com>
To: "Gautham R. Shenoy" <gautham.shenoy@....com>, 
	"Du, Xiaojian" <Xiaojian.Du@....com>
Cc: "rafael.j.wysocki@...el.com" <rafael.j.wysocki@...el.com>, 
	"Limonciello, Mario" <Mario.Limonciello@....com>, 
	"viresh.kumar@...aro.org" <viresh.kumar@...aro.org>, 
	"Huang, Ray" <Ray.Huang@....com>, 
	"Petkov, Borislav" <Borislav.Petkov@....com>, 
	"Huang, Shimmer" <Shimmer.Huang@....com>, 
	"Meng, Li (Jassmine)" <Li.Meng@....com>, 
	"linux-pm@...r.kernel.org" <linux-pm@...r.kernel.org>, 
	"linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>, 
	"Yuan, Perry" <Perry.Yuan@....com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RESENT] cpufreq: amd-pstate: add quirk for Ryzen 3000
 series processor


Hi, 

I just upgrade my BIOS, now the error message is gone(without quirk), I only have following warning:

[Thu Aug 22 15:12:02 2024] amd_pstate: The CPPC feature is supported but currently disabled by the BIOS.
                           Please enable it if your BIOS has the CPPC option.


No significant performance changes noticed yet:

Clean kernel deb package build time is about the same as before:
$ time make deb-pkg  -j6

real	38m50.977s
user	217m5.970s
sys	19m55.164s


And amd-pstate seems working (more accurate than quirks?):

$ cat  /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpufreq/policy0/*amd*
166
enabled
1740000
3905000
176

$ cpupower frequency-info
analyzing CPU 0:
  driver: amd-pstate-epp
  CPUs which run at the same hardware frequency: 0
  CPUs which need to have their frequency coordinated by software: 0
  maximum transition latency:  Cannot determine or is not supported.
  hardware limits: 550 MHz - 3.91 GHz
  available cpufreq governors: performance powersave
  current policy: frequency should be within 550 MHz and 3.91 GHz.
                  The governor "powersave" may decide which speed to use
                  within this range.
  current CPU frequency: Unable to call hardware
  current CPU frequency: 3.90 GHz (asserted by call to kernel)
  boost state support:
    Supported: yes
    Active: no


And thanks for all your support!!!

BTW, about the quirks, I still think the dmi-match is not enough, 
CPU family model should also be checked to determine a accurate static quirk_entry.
 
David



At 2024-08-22 13:59:57, "Gautham R. Shenoy" <gautham.shenoy@....com> wrote:
>Hello David,
>
>On Thu, Aug 22, 2024 at 01:43:12PM +0800, David Wang wrote:
>> Hi, 
>> >
>> Thanks for the information.   (I did change my BIOS's CPPC config from "auto" to "enable", but error message still.)
>> But according to   another mail from gautham.shenoy@....com,  my understanding is that my CPU(AMD Ryzen 3 3100 4-Core Processor) does not have this CPPC feature,  would upgrade my BIOS really help?
>> ```
>
>To clarify,
>
>There are two ways in which the OS can communicate its CPPC
>requirements with the platform firmware.
>
>1. Via the following CPPC MSRs
>
>#define MSR_AMD_CPPC_CAP1		0xc00102b0
>#define MSR_AMD_CPPC_ENABLE		0xc00102b1
>#define MSR_AMD_CPPC_CAP2		0xc00102b2
>#define MSR_AMD_CPPC_REQ		0xc00102b3
>#define MSR_AMD_CPPC_STATUS		0xc00102b4
>
>2. Via the shared memory mechanism.
>
>
>The presence of the CPPC MSRs is indicated via X86_FEATURE_CPPC (CPUID
>0x80000008.EBX[27]). If available, the amd-pstate driver prefers that
>over the shared-memory mechanism.
>
>So the the following warning are intended only for platforms that are
>known to have the MSR support, not for the platforms which don't have
>the MSR support.
>
>"The CPPC feature is supported but currently disabled by the BIOS.
>Please enable it if your BIOS has the CPPC option"
>
>Your platform has CPPC feature (evident from the fact that amd-pstate
>worked for you with the BIOS quirk patch), and the amd-pstate driver can
>work just as well using the shared-memory mechanism (2 above) as long
>as your BIOS supports CPPC v3 (which advertises the nominal frequency
>in addition to the nominal perf).
>
>The current version of the BIOS that you are running doesn't seem to
>support CPPC v3, which is why the amd-pstate driver won't work
>out-of-box. This is why Xiaojian recommended upgrading the BIOS to the
>latest version.
>
>
>> 
>> Anyway, I will give BIOS upgrading  a try.
>
>Please do!
>
>> 
>> >If this issue is fixed in BIOS, no need to modify the upstream kernel code, right?
>> 
>> I think , even when upgrading BIOS would not help, the quirk just for my system is not worth be in kernel :)......
>>
>
>Fair point. However, in case you prefer to use amd-pstate, know that
>this is one way of enabling it, if the BIOS upgrade doesn't help.
>
>> 
>> Thanks
>> David
>
>--
>Thanks and Regards
>gautham.

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