linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH v2] powerpc: warn on emulation of dcbz instruction in kernel mode

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Message-ID: <20240823191924.GK28254@gate.crashing.org>
Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2024 14:19:24 -0500
From: Segher Boessenkool <segher@...nel.crashing.org>
To: Christoph Hellwig <hch@....de>
Cc: LEROY Christophe <christophe.leroy2@...soprasteria.com>,
        Christian Lamparter <christian.lamparter@....uni-stuttgart.de>,
        Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@...nel.crashing.org>,
        Paul Mackerras <paulus@...ba.org>,
        Michael Ellerman <mpe@...erman.id.au>,
        "linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
        "linuxppc-dev@...ts.ozlabs.org" <linuxppc-dev@...ts.ozlabs.org>,
        Stan Johnson <userm57@...oo.com>, Finn Thain <fthain@...ux-m68k.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] powerpc: warn on emulation of dcbz instruction in kernel mode

Hi!

On Fri, Aug 23, 2024 at 03:54:59PM +0200, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 23, 2024 at 08:06:00AM -0500, Segher Boessenkool wrote:
> > What does "uncached memory" even mean here?  Literally it would be
> > I=1 memory (uncachEABLE memory), but more likely you want M=0 memory
> > here ("non-memory memory", "not well-behaved memory", MMIO often).
> 
> Regular kernel memory vmapped with pgprot_noncached().

So, I=1 (and G=1).  Caching inhibited and guarded.  But M=1 (memory
coherence required) as with any other real memory :-)

> > If memset() is expected to be used with M=0, you cannot do any serious
> > optimisations to it at all.  If memset() is expected to be used with I=1
> > it should use a separate code path for it, probably the caller should
> > make the distinction.
> 
> DMA coherent memory which uses uncached memory for platforms that
> do not provide hardware dma coherence can end up just about anywhere
> in the kernel.  We could use special routines for a few places in
> the DMA subsystem, but there might be plenty of others.

Yeah.  It will just be plenty slow, as we see here, that's what the
warning is for; but it works just fine :-)

The memset() code itself could chech for the storage attributes, but
that is probably more expensive than just assuming the happy case.
Maybe someone could try it out though!


Segher