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Message-ID: <87e4788c-6407-41a8-b201-e3f05064e5a6@intel.com>
Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2024 09:00:35 -0700
From: Reinette Chatre <reinette.chatre@...el.com>
To: Ilpo Järvinen <ilpo.jarvinen@...ux.intel.com>
CC: <fenghua.yu@...el.com>, <shuah@...nel.org>, <tony.luck@...el.com>,
	<peternewman@...gle.com>, <babu.moger@....com>,
	Maciej Wieczór-Retman <maciej.wieczor-retman@...el.com>,
	<linux-kselftest@...r.kernel.org>, LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 5/6] selftests/resctrl: Do not compare performance
 counters and resctrl at low bandwidth

Hi Ilpo,

On 8/30/24 4:42 AM, Ilpo Järvinen wrote:
> On Thu, 29 Aug 2024, Reinette Chatre wrote:
> 
>> The MBA test incrementally throttles memory bandwidth, each time
>> followed by a comparison between the memory bandwidth observed
>> by the performance counters and resctrl respectively.
>>
>> While a comparison between performance counters and resctrl is
>> generally appropriate, they do not have an identical view of
>> memory bandwidth. For example RAS features or memory performance
>> features that generate memory traffic may drive accesses that are
>> counted differently by performance counters and MBM respectively,
>> for instance generating "overhead" traffic which is not counted
>> against any specific RMID. As a ratio, this different view of memory
>> bandwidth becomes more apparent at low memory bandwidths.
> 
> Interesting.
> 
> I did some time back prototype with a change to MBM test such that instead
> of using once=false I changed fill_buf to be able to run N passes through
> the buffer which allowed me to know how many reads were performed by the
> benchmark. This yielded numerical difference between all those 3 values
> (# of reads, MBM, perf) which also varied from arch to another so it
> didn't end up making an usable test.
> 
> I guess I now have an explanation for at least a part of the differences.
> 
>> It is not practical to enable/disable the various features that
>> may generate memory bandwidth to give performance counters and
>> resctrl an identical view. Instead, do not compare performance
>> counters and resctrl view of memory bandwidth when the memory
>> bandwidth is low.
>>
>> Bandwidth throttling behaves differently across platforms
>> so it is not appropriate to drop measurement data simply based
>> on the throttling level. Instead, use a threshold of 750MiB
>> that has been observed to support adequate comparison between
>> performance counters and resctrl.
>>
>> Signed-off-by: Reinette Chatre <reinette.chatre@...el.com>
>> ---
>>   tools/testing/selftests/resctrl/mba_test.c | 7 +++++++
>>   tools/testing/selftests/resctrl/resctrl.h  | 6 ++++++
>>   2 files changed, 13 insertions(+)
>>
>> diff --git a/tools/testing/selftests/resctrl/mba_test.c b/tools/testing/selftests/resctrl/mba_test.c
>> index cad473b81a64..204b9ac4b108 100644
>> --- a/tools/testing/selftests/resctrl/mba_test.c
>> +++ b/tools/testing/selftests/resctrl/mba_test.c
>> @@ -96,6 +96,13 @@ static bool show_mba_info(unsigned long *bw_imc, unsigned long *bw_resc)
>>   
>>   		avg_bw_imc = sum_bw_imc / (NUM_OF_RUNS - 1);
>>   		avg_bw_resc = sum_bw_resc / (NUM_OF_RUNS - 1);
>> +		if (avg_bw_imc < THROTTLE_THRESHOLD || avg_bw_resc < THROTTLE_THRESHOLD) {
>> +			ksft_print_msg("Bandwidth below threshold (%d MiB).  Dropping results from MBA schemata %u.\n",
>> +					THROTTLE_THRESHOLD,
>> +					ALLOCATION_MAX - ALLOCATION_STEP * allocation);
> 
> The second one too should be %d.
> 

hmmm ... I intended to have it be consistent with the ksft_print_msg() that
follows. Perhaps allocation can be made unsigned instead?

Reinette

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