Message-ID: <20240830081205.x3ucsausk5znk27e@thinkpad>
Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2024 13:42:05 +0530
From: Manivannan Sadhasivam <manivannan.sadhasivam@...aro.org>
To: Bjorn Helgaas <helgaas@...nel.org>
Cc: lpieralisi@...nel.org, kw@...ux.com, bhelgaas@...gle.com,
	robh@...nel.org, linux-pci@...r.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, linux-arm-msm@...r.kernel.org,
	Dmitry Baryshkov <dmitry.baryshkov@...aro.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] PCI: qcom-ep: Enable controller resources like PHY
 only after refclk is available

On Thu, Aug 29, 2024 at 12:06:24PM -0500, Bjorn Helgaas wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 29, 2024 at 10:14:55PM +0530, Manivannan Sadhasivam wrote:
> > On Thu, Aug 29, 2024 at 07:38:08AM -0500, Bjorn Helgaas wrote:
> > > On Thu, Aug 29, 2024 at 11:07:20AM +0530, Manivannan Sadhasivam wrote:
> > > > On Wed, Aug 28, 2024 at 03:59:45PM -0500, Bjorn Helgaas wrote:
> > > > > On Wed, Aug 28, 2024 at 07:31:08PM +0530, Manivannan Sadhasivam wrote:
> > > > > > qcom_pcie_enable_resources() is called by qcom_pcie_ep_probe() and it
> > > > > > enables the controller resources like clocks, regulator, PHY. On one of the
> > > > > > new unreleased Qcom SoC, PHY enablement depends on the active refclk. And
> > > > > > on all of the supported Qcom endpoint SoCs, refclk comes from the host
> > > > > > (RC). So calling qcom_pcie_enable_resources() without refclk causes the
> > > > > > whole SoC crash on the new SoC.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > qcom_pcie_enable_resources() is already called by
> > > > > > qcom_pcie_perst_deassert() when PERST# is deasserted, and refclk is
> > > > > > available at that time.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Hence, remove the unnecessary call to qcom_pcie_enable_resources() from
> > > > > > qcom_pcie_ep_probe() to prevent the crash.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Fixes: 869bc5253406 ("PCI: dwc: ep: Fix DBI access failure for drivers requiring refclk from host")
> > > > > > Tested-by: Dmitry Baryshkov <dmitry.baryshkov@...aro.org>
> > > > > > Signed-off-by: Manivannan Sadhasivam <manivannan.sadhasivam@...aro.org>
> > > > > > ---
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Changes in v2:
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > - Changed the patch description to mention the crash clearly as suggested by
> > > > > >   Bjorn
> > > > > 
> > > > > Clearly mentioning the crash as rationale for the change is *part* of
> > > > > what I was looking for.
> > > > > 
> > > > > The rest, just as important, is information about what sort of crash
> > > > > this is, because I hope and suspect the crash is recoverable, and we
> > > > > *should* recover from it because PERST# may occur at arbitrary times,
> > > > > so trying to avoid it is never going to be reliable.
> > > > 
> > > > I did mention 'whole SoC crash' which typically means unrecoverable
> > > > state as the SoC would crash (not just the driver). On Qcom SoCs,
> > > > this will also lead the SoC to boot into EDL (Emergency Download)
> > > > mode so that the users can collect dumps on the crash.
> > > 
> > > IIUC we're talking about an access to a PHY register, and the access
> > > requires Refclk from the host.  I assume the SoC accesses the register
> > > by doing an MMIO load.  If nothing responds, I assume the SoC would
> > > take a machine check or similar because there's no data to complete
> > > the load instruction.  So I assume again that the Linux on the SoC
> > > doesn't know how to recover from such a machine check?  If that's the
> > > scenario, is the machine check unrecoverable in principle, or is it
> > > potentially recoverable but nobody has done the work to do it?  My
> > > guess would be the latter, because the former would mean that it's
> > > impossible to build a robust endpoint around this SoC.  But obviously
> > > this is all complete speculation on my part.
> > 
> > Atleast on Qcom SoCs, doing a MMIO read without enabling the
> > resources would result in a NoC (Network On Chip) error, which then
> > end up as an exception to the Trustzone and Trustzone will finally
> > convert it to a SoC crash so that the users could take a crash dump
> > and do the analysis on why the crash has happened.
> > 
> > I know that it may sound strange to developers coming from x86 world
> > :)
> 
> It's only strange if the system design forces a crash for events that
> happen in normal operation.  Sounds like part of the problem here is
> the non-SRIS mode that depends on Refclk from the host.  That and the
> fact that operating in non-SRIS mode has an unavoidable race where
> PERST# from the host at the wrong time can crash the endpoint.
> 

Precisely.

> I think users of non-SRIS mode need to be aware of this issue, and
> this patch to narrow the race window, but not close it completely, is
> one good place to mention it.
> 

Okay. I'll mention it in patch description.

> > But this NoC error is something NVidia has also reported before, so
> > I wouldn't assume that this is a Qcom specific issue but rather for
> > SoCs depending on refclk from host.
> 
> Are there other drivers that need a similar band-aid?
> 

AFAIK, only tegra194 and qcom-pcie-ep drivers require refclk from host. Rest of
the endpoint drivers seem to have independent clock.

- Mani

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