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Message-ID: <7348caab-726c-4c30-8634-a7820aec97d1@linux.dev>
Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2024 10:27:49 -0400
From: Sean Anderson <sean.anderson@...ux.dev>
To: "Thangaraj, Senthil Nathan" <SenthilNathan.Thangaraj@....com>,
 "Simek, Michal" <michal.simek@....com>,
 "linux-arm-kernel@...ts.infradead.org" <linux-arm-kernel@...ts.infradead.org>
Cc: Rob Herring <robh@...nel.org>, Conor Dooley <conor+dt@...nel.org>,
 Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzk+dt@...nel.org>,
 "linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
 "devicetree@...r.kernel.org" <devicetree@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/3] arm64: zynqmp: Add thermal zones

On 9/3/24 04:32, Thangaraj, Senthil Nathan wrote:
> Hi Sean,
> 
> Please find my review comments inline.
> 
> Thanks,
> Senthil.
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Sean Anderson <sean.anderson@...ux.dev>
>> Sent: Monday, August 12, 2024 2:51 PM
>> To: Simek, Michal <michal.simek@....com>; linux-arm-
>> kernel@...ts.infradead.org
>> Cc: Rob Herring <robh@...nel.org>; Conor Dooley <conor+dt@...nel.org>;
>> Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzk+dt@...nel.org>; linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org;
>> devicetree@...r.kernel.org; Sean Anderson <sean.anderson@...ux.dev>
>> Subject: [PATCH 3/3] arm64: zynqmp: Add thermal zones
>> 
>> Add some thermal trip points. We can't undervolt the CPUs to save power
>> when we underclock them, so there isn't really a point in throttling them until
>> we are about to overheat. As such, the passive trip point is right below the
>> critical trip point.
>> 
>> The critical trip point is the extended/industrial-grade maximum junction
>> temperature of 100C minus the maximum temperature sensor error of 3.5C
>> (in the range -55C to 110C). Automotive- and military-grade parts can go up
>> to 125C, but as far as I can tell there is no way to detect them at runtime.
>> Userspace can adjust the trip points at runtime, but this may not be viable
>> when booting above 100C. I think it's reasonable to ask automotive/military
>> users to edit their device trees to bump the trip points, but if that proves to be
>> an issue we can always go with no default temperatures. However, that
>> wouldn't be too nice for the majority of extended/industrial users.
>> 
>> Signed-off-by: Sean Anderson <sean.anderson@...ux.dev>
>> ---
>> 
>>  arch/arm64/boot/dts/xilinx/zynqmp.dtsi | 86
>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>  1 file changed, 86 insertions(+)
>> 
>> diff --git a/arch/arm64/boot/dts/xilinx/zynqmp.dtsi
>> b/arch/arm64/boot/dts/xilinx/zynqmp.dtsi
>> index 21c1adbaf35f..467f084c6469 100644
>> --- a/arch/arm64/boot/dts/xilinx/zynqmp.dtsi
>> +++ b/arch/arm64/boot/dts/xilinx/zynqmp.dtsi
>> @@ -18,6 +18,7 @@
>>  #include <dt-bindings/interrupt-controller/irq.h>
>>  #include <dt-bindings/power/xlnx-zynqmp-power.h>
>>  #include <dt-bindings/reset/xlnx-zynqmp-resets.h>
>> +#include <dt-bindings/thermal/thermal.h>
>> 
>>  / {
>>  	compatible = "xlnx,zynqmp";
>> @@ -36,6 +37,7 @@ cpus {
>>  		#size-cells = <0>;
>> 
>>  		cpu0: cpu@0 {
>> +			#cooling-cells = <2>;
>>  			compatible = "arm,cortex-a53";
>>  			device_type = "cpu";
>>  			enable-method = "psci";
>> @@ -46,6 +48,7 @@ cpu0: cpu@0 {
>>  		};
>> 
>>  		cpu1: cpu@1 {
>> +			#cooling-cells = <2>;
>>  			compatible = "arm,cortex-a53";
>>  			device_type = "cpu";
>>  			enable-method = "psci";
>> @@ -56,6 +59,7 @@ cpu1: cpu@1 {
>>  		};
>> 
>>  		cpu2: cpu@2 {
>> +			#cooling-cells = <2>;
>>  			compatible = "arm,cortex-a53";
>>  			device_type = "cpu";
>>  			enable-method = "psci";
>> @@ -66,6 +70,7 @@ cpu2: cpu@2 {
>>  		};
>> 
>>  		cpu3: cpu@3 {
>> +			#cooling-cells = <2>;
>>  			compatible = "arm,cortex-a53";
>>  			device_type = "cpu";
>>  			enable-method = "psci";
>> @@ -406,6 +411,87 @@ ams {
>>  			<&xilinx_ams 27>, <&xilinx_ams 28>, <&xilinx_ams
>> 29>;
>>  	};
>> 
>> +
>> +	tsens_apu: thermal-sensor-apu {
>> +		compatible = "generic-adc-thermal";
>> +		#thermal-sensor-cells = <0>;
>> +		io-channels = <&xilinx_ams 7>;
>> +		io-channel-names = "sensor-channel";
>> +	};
>> +
>> +	tsens_rpu: thermal-sensor-rpu {
>> +		compatible = "generic-adc-thermal";
>> +		#thermal-sensor-cells = <0>;
>> +		io-channels = <&xilinx_ams 8>;
>> +		io-channel-names = "sensor-channel";
>> +	};
>> +
>> +	tsens_pl: thermal-sensor-pl {
>> +		compatible = "generic-adc-thermal";
>> +		#thermal-sensor-cells = <0>;
>> +		io-channels = <&xilinx_ams 20>;
>> +		io-channel-names = "sensor-channel";
>> +	};
>> +
>> +	thermal-zones {
>> +		apu-thermal {
>> +			polling-delay-passive = <1000>;
>> +			polling-delay = <5000>;
> 
> How did we arrive at these delays, 1000 and 5000 ? could you please clarify ?

They're just arbitrary. Feel free to suggest other numbers. I could find
no guidance on this matter (or anything else thermal-related).

>> +			thermal-sensors = <&tsens_apu>;
>> +
>> +			trips {
>> +				apu_passive: passive {
>> +					temperature = <93000>;
>> +					hysteresis = <3500>;
>> +					type = "passive";
>> +				};
>> +
>> +				apu_critical: critical {
>> +					temperature = <96500>;
>> +					hysteresis = <3500>;
>> +					type = "critical";
>> +				};
>> +			};
>> +
>> +			cooling-maps {
>> +				map {
>> +					trip = <&apu_passive>;
>> +					cooling-device =
>> +						<&cpu0 THERMAL_NO_LIMIT
>> THERMAL_NO_LIMIT>,
>> +						<&cpu1 THERMAL_NO_LIMIT
>> THERMAL_NO_LIMIT>,
>> +						<&cpu2 THERMAL_NO_LIMIT
>> THERMAL_NO_LIMIT>,
>> +						<&cpu3 THERMAL_NO_LIMIT
>> THERMAL_NO_LIMIT>;
>> +				};
>> +			};
>> +		};
>> +
>> +		rpu-thermal {
>> +			polling-delay = <10000>;
> 
> Same questions, how did we come up with number 10000
> 
>> +			thermal-sensors = <&tsens_rpu>;
>> +
>> +			trips {
>> +				critical {
>> +					temperature = <96500>;
>> +					hysteresis = <3500>;
>> +					type = "critical";
>> +				};
> 
> Any reason why we haven't defined for passive trip point for RPU ?

What is there to do? It is up to the RPU software to do something if the
RPU is going to overheat. But the more-likely occurrence is that the APU
is overheating and the heat is spreading to the RPU. In which case, the
APU passive trip point will handle things.

>> +			};
>> +		};
>> +
>> +		pl-thermal {
>> +			polling-delay = <10000>;
>> +			thermal-sensors = <&tsens_pl>;
>> +
>> +			trips {
>> +				critical {
>> +					temperature = <96500>;
>> +					hysteresis = <3500>;
>> +					type = "critical";
>> +				};
>> +			};
> Same question, any reason why we haven't defined for passive trip point for PL ?
>> +		};
>> +	};
>> +
>>  	amba: axi {
>>  		compatible = "simple-bus";
>>  		bootph-all;
>> --
>> 2.35.1.1320.gc452695387.dirty
> 

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