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Message-ID: <f554031343039883068145f9f4777277e490dc05.camel@huaweicloud.com>
Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2024 10:53:56 +0200
From: Roberto Sassu <roberto.sassu@...weicloud.com>
To: Jarkko Sakkinen <jarkko@...nel.org>, James Bottomley
	 <James.Bottomley@...senPartnership.com>, Linux regressions mailing list
	 <regressions@...ts.linux.dev>
Cc: keyrings@...r.kernel.org, "linux-integrity@...r.kernel.org"
	 <linux-integrity@...r.kernel.org>, LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>, 
	Pengyu Ma <mapengyu@...il.com>
Subject: Re: [regression] significant delays when secureboot is enabled
 since 6.10

On Tue, 2024-09-10 at 16:28 +0300, Jarkko Sakkinen wrote:
> On Tue Sep 10, 2024 at 3:57 PM EEST, James Bottomley wrote:
> > On Tue, 2024-09-10 at 15:48 +0300, Jarkko Sakkinen wrote:
> > > On Tue Sep 10, 2024 at 3:39 PM EEST, Jarkko Sakkinen wrote:
> > > > On Tue Sep 10, 2024 at 12:05 PM EEST, Roberto Sassu wrote:
> > > > > On Tue, 2024-09-10 at 11:01 +0200, Linux regression tracking
> > > > > (Thorsten
> > > > > Leemhuis) wrote:
> > > > > > Hi, Thorsten here, the Linux kernel's regression tracker.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > James, Jarkoo, I noticed a report about a regression in
> > > > > > bugzilla.kernel.org that appears to be caused by this change of
> > > > > > yours:
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 6519fea6fd372b ("tpm: add hmac checks to tpm2_pcr_extend()")
> > > > > > [v6.10-rc1]
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > As many (most?) kernel developers don't keep an eye on the bug
> > > > > > tracker,
> > > > > > I decided to forward it by mail. To quote from
> > > > > > https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=219229 :
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > When secureboot is enabled,
> > > > > > > the kernel boot time is ~20 seconds after 6.10 kernel.
> > > > > > > it's ~7 seconds on 6.8 kernel version.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > When secureboot is disabled,
> > > > > > > the boot time is ~7 seconds too.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Reproduced on both AMD and Intel platform on ThinkPad X1 and
> > > > > > > T14.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > It probably caused autologin failure and micmute led not
> > > > > > > loaded on AMD platform.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > It was later bisected to the change mentioned above. See the
> > > > > > ticket for
> > > > > > more details.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Hi
> > > > > 
> > > > > I suspect I encountered the same problem:
> > > > > 
> > > > > https://lore.kernel.org/linux-integrity/b8a7b3566e6014ba102ab98e10ede0d574d8930e.camel@huaweicloud.com/
> > > > > 
> > > > > Going to provide more info there.
> > > > 
> > > > I suppose you are going try to acquire the tracing data I asked?
> > > > That would be awesome, thanks for taking the troube.  Let's look
> > > > at the data and draw conclusions based on that.
> > > > 
> > > > Workaround is pretty simple: CONFIG_TCG_TPM2_HMAC=n to the kernel
> > > > configuration disables the feature.
> > > > 
> > > > For making decisions what to do with the  we are talking about ~2
> > > > week window estimated, given the Vienna conference slows things
> > > > down, so I hope my workaround is good enough before that.
> > > 
> > > I can enumerate three most likely ways to address the issue:
> > > 
> > > 1. Strongest: drop from defconfig.
> > > 2. Medium: leave to defconfig but add an opt-in kernel command-line
> > >    parameter.
> > > 3. Lightest: if we can based on tracing data nail the regression in
> > >    sustainable schedule, fix it.
> > 
> > Actually, there's a fourth: not use sessions for the PCR extend (if
> > we'd got the timings when I asked, this was going to be my suggestion
> > if they came back problematic).  This seems only to be a problem for
> > IMA measured boot (because it does lots of extends).  If necessary this
> > could even be wrapped in a separate config or boot option that only
> > disables HMAC on extend if IMA (so we still get security for things
> > like sd-boot)
> 
> I can buy that but with a twist that make it an opt-in kernel command
> line option. We don't want to take already existing functionality away
> from those who might want to use it (given e.g. hardening requirements),
> and with that basis opt-in (by default disabled) would be more balanced
> way to address the issue.
> 
> Please do a send a patch!

I made few measurements. I have a Fedora 38 VM with TPM passthrough.

Kernels: 6.11-rc2+ (guest), 6.5.0-45-generic (host)

QEMU:

rc  qemu-kvm                                          1:4.2-3ubuntu6.27
ii  qemu-system-x86                                   1:6.2+dfsg-2ubuntu6.22


TPM2_PT_MANUFACTURER:
  raw: 0x49465800
  value: "IFX"
TPM2_PT_VENDOR_STRING_1:
  raw: 0x534C4239
  value: "SLB9"
TPM2_PT_VENDOR_STRING_2:
  raw: 0x36373000
  value: "670"


No HMAC:

# tracer: function_graph
#
# CPU  DURATION                  FUNCTION CALLS
# |     |   |                     |   |   |   |
 0)               |  tpm2_pcr_extend() {
 0)   1.112 us    |    tpm_buf_append_hmac_session();
 0) # 6360.029 us |    tpm_transmit_cmd();
 0) # 6415.012 us |  }


HMAC:

# tracer: function_graph
#
# CPU  DURATION                  FUNCTION CALLS
# |     |   |                     |   |   |   |
 1)               |  tpm2_pcr_extend() {
 1)               |    tpm2_start_auth_session() {
 1) * 36976.99 us |      tpm_transmit_cmd();
 1) * 84746.51 us |      tpm_transmit_cmd();
 1) # 3195.083 us |      tpm_transmit_cmd();
 1) @ 126795.1 us |    }
 1)   2.254 us    |    tpm_buf_append_hmac_session();
 1)   3.546 us    |    tpm_buf_fill_hmac_session();
 1) * 24356.46 us |    tpm_transmit_cmd();
 1)   3.496 us    |    tpm_buf_check_hmac_response();
 1) @ 151171.0 us |  }

Roberto


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