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Message-ID: <CABgObfaobJ=G18JO9Jx6-K2mhZ2saVyLY-tHOgab1cJupOe-0Q@mail.gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2024 17:37:04 +0200
From: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@...hat.com>
To: "Edgecombe, Rick P" <rick.p.edgecombe@...el.com>
Cc: "Li, Xiaoyao" <xiaoyao.li@...el.com>, "kvm@...r.kernel.org" <kvm@...r.kernel.org>, 
	"linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>, "seanjc@...gle.com" <seanjc@...gle.com>, 
	"Huang, Kai" <kai.huang@...el.com>, "isaku.yamahata@...il.com" <isaku.yamahata@...il.com>, 
	"tony.lindgren@...ux.intel.com" <tony.lindgren@...ux.intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 25/25] KVM: x86: Add CPUID bits missing from KVM_GET_SUPPORTED_CPUID

On Thu, Sep 12, 2024 at 5:08 PM Edgecombe, Rick P
<rick.p.edgecombe@...el.com> wrote:
> > KVM can have a TDX-specific version of KVM_GET_SUPPORTED_CPUID, so
> > that we can keep a variant of the "get supported bits and pass them
> > to KVM_SET_CPUID2" logic, but that's it.
>
> Can you clarify what you mean here when you say TDX-specific version of
> KVM_GET_SUPPORTED_CPUID?
>
> We have two things kind of like that implemented in this series:
> 1. KVM_TDX_GET_CPUID, which returns the CPUID bits actually set in the TD
> 2. KVM_TDX_CAPABILITIES, which returns CPUID bits that TDX module allows full
> control over (i.e. what we have been calling directly configurable CPUID bits)
>
> KVM_TDX_GET_CPUID->KVM_SET_CPUID2 kind of works like
> KVM_GET_SUPPORTED_CPUID->KVM_SET_CPUID2, so I think that is what you mean, but
> just want to confirm.

Yes, that's correct.

> We can't get the needed information (fixed bits, etc) to create a TDX
> KVM_GET_SUPPORTED_CPUID today from the TDX module, so we would have to encode it
> into KVM. This was NAKed by Sean at some point. We have started looking into
> exposing the needed info in the TDX module, but it is just starting.

I think a bare minimum of this API is needed (adding HYPERVISOR,
and masking TDX-supported features against what KVM supports).
It's too much of a fundamental step in KVM's configuration API.

I am not sure if there are other fixed-1 bits than HYPERVISOR as of
today.  But in any case, if the TDX module breaks it unilaterally by
adding more fixed-1 bits, that's a problem for Intel not for KVM.

On the other hand is KVM_TDX_CAPABILITIES even needed?  If userspace
can replace that with hardcoded logic or info from the infamous JSON
file, that would work.

Paolo


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