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Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2024 10:27:01 +0200
From: Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@...icios.com>
To: Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@...il.com>, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
rcu@...r.kernel.org, linux-mm@...ck.org, lkmm@...r.kernel.org
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Neeraj Upadhyay <neeraj.upadhyay@....com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 1/4] hazptr: Add initial implementation of hazard
pointers
On 2024-09-17 16:33, Boqun Feng wrote:
[...]
>
> The synchronization between readers and updaters is built around "hazard
> pointer slots": a slot readers can use to store a pointer value.
>
> Reader side protection:
>
> 1. Read the value of a pointer to the target data element.
> 2. Store it to a hazard pointer slot.
> 3. Enforce full ordering (e.g. smp_mb()).
> 4. Re-read the original pointer, reset the slot and retry if the
> value changed.
> 5. Otherwise, the continued existence of the target data element
> is guaranteed.
>
> Updater side check:
>
> 1. Unpublish the target data element (e.g. setting the pointer
> value to NULL).
> 2. Enforce full ordering.
> 3. Read the value from a hazard pointer slot.
> 4. If the value doesn't match the target data element, then this
> slot doesn't represent a reference to it.
> 5. Otherwise, updater needs to re-check (step 3).
Cool! I look forward to see where this is meant to be used. I would
expect it to be a useful tool to speed up reference counting of
things like the mm_struct and for TLB flush IPIs.
On a related note, with a userspace port in mind, the membarrier(2)
syscall can be useful to turn the smp_mb() in (3) from the reader
side into a simple compiler barrier, assuming (2) from the updater
is using membarrier. If IPIs are acceptable (or already required) for
some kernel use-cases, this means a similar asymmetric fence scheme
could be used to speed up readers.
Thanks,
Mathieu
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Mathieu Desnoyers
EfficiOS Inc.
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