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Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2024 10:34:49 -0700
From: Yosry Ahmed <yosryahmed@...gle.com>
To: "Sridhar, Kanchana P" <kanchana.p.sridhar@...el.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v7 6/8] mm: zswap: Support mTHP swapout in zswap_store().

On Thu, Sep 26, 2024 at 10:29 AM Sridhar, Kanchana P
<kanchana.p.sridhar@...el.com> wrote:
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Yosry Ahmed <yosryahmed@...gle.com>
> > Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2024 10:20 AM
> > To: Sridhar, Kanchana P <kanchana.p.sridhar@...el.com>
> > Cc: Johannes Weiner <hannes@...xchg.org>; linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org;
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> > Subject: Re: [PATCH v7 6/8] mm: zswap: Support mTHP swapout in
> > zswap_store().
> >
> > On Thu, Sep 26, 2024 at 9:40 AM Sridhar, Kanchana P
> > <kanchana.p.sridhar@...el.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Yosry Ahmed <yosryahmed@...gle.com>
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2024 9:52 PM
> > > > To: Sridhar, Kanchana P <kanchana.p.sridhar@...el.com>
> > > > Cc: Johannes Weiner <hannes@...xchg.org>; linux-
> > kernel@...r.kernel.org;
> > > > linux-mm@...ck.org; nphamcs@...il.com; chengming.zhou@...ux.dev;
> > > > usamaarif642@...il.com; shakeel.butt@...ux.dev;
> > ryan.roberts@....com;
> > > > Huang, Ying <ying.huang@...el.com>; 21cnbao@...il.com; akpm@...ux-
> > > > foundation.org; Zou, Nanhai <nanhai.zou@...el.com>; Feghali, Wajdi K
> > > > <wajdi.k.feghali@...el.com>; Gopal, Vinodh <vinodh.gopal@...el.com>
> > > > Subject: Re: [PATCH v7 6/8] mm: zswap: Support mTHP swapout in
> > > > zswap_store().
> > > >
> > > > [..]
> > > > >
> > > > > One thing I realized while reworking the patches for the batched checks
> > is:
> > > > > within zswap_store_page(), we set the entry->objcg and entry->pool
> > before
> > > > > adding it to the xarray. Given this, wouldn't it be safer to get the objcg
> > > > > and pool reference per sub-page, locally in zswap_store_page(), rather
> > than
> > > > > obtaining batched references at the end if the store is successful? If we
> > > > want
> > > > > zswap_store_page() to be self-contained and correct as far as the entry
> > > > > being created and added to the xarray, it seems like the right thing to
> > do?
> > > > > I am a bit apprehensive about the entry being added to the xarray
> > without
> > > > > a reference obtained on the objcg and pool, because any page-
> > > > faults/writeback
> > > > > that occur on sub-pages added to the xarray before the entire folio has
> > been
> > > > > stored, would run into issues.
> > > >
> > > > We definitely should not obtain references to the pool and objcg after
> > > > initializing the entries with them. We can obtain all references in
> > > > zswap_store() before zswap_store_page(). IOW, the batching in this
> > > > case should be done before the per-page operations, not after.
> > >
> > > Thanks Yosry. IIUC, we should obtain all references to the objcg and to the
> > > zswap_pool at the start of zswap_store.
> > >
> > > In the case of error on any sub-page, we will unwind state for potentially
> > > only the stored pages or the entire folio if it happened to already be in
> > zswap
> > > and is being re-written. We might need some additional book-keeping to
> > > keep track of which sub-pages were found in the xarray and
> > zswap_entry_free()
> > > got called (nr_sb). Assuming I define a new "obj_cgroup_put_many()", I
> > would need
> > > to call this with (folio_nr_pages() - nr_sb).
> > >
> > > As far as zswap_pool_get(), there is some added complexity if we want to
> > > keep the existing implementation that calls "percpu_ref_tryget()", and
> > assuming
> > > this is extended to provide a new "zswap_pool_get_many()" that calls
> > > "percpu_ref_tryget_many()". Is there a reason we use percpu_ref_tryget()
> > instead
> > > of percpu_ref_get()? Reason I ask is, with tryget(), if for some reason the
> > pool->ref
> > > is 0, no further increments will be made. If so, upon unwinding state in
> > > zswap_store(), I would need to special-case to catch this before calling a
> > new
> > > "zswap_pool_put_many()".
> > >
> > > Things could be a little simpler if zswap_pool_get() can use
> > "percpu_ref_get()"
> > > which will always increment the refcount. Since the zswap pool->ref is
> > initialized
> > > to "1", this seems Ok, but I don't know if there will be unintended
> > consequences.
> > >
> > > Can you please advise on what is the simplest/cleanest approach:
> > >
> > > 1) Proceed with the above changes without changing percpu_ref_tryget in
> > >      zswap_pool_get. Needs special-casing in zswap_store to detect pool-
> > >ref
> > >     being "0" before calling zswap_pool_put[_many].
> >
> > My assumption is that we can reorder the code such that if
> > zswap_pool_get_many() fails we don't call zswap_pool_put_many() to
> > begin with (e.g. jump to a label after zswap_pool_put_many()).
>
> However, the pool refcount could change between the start and end of
> zswap_store.

I am not sure what you mean. If zswap_pool_get_many() fails then we
just do not call zswap_pool_put_many() at all and abort.

>
> >
> > > 2) Modify zswap_pool_get/zswap_pool_get_many to use
> > percpu_ref_get_many
> > >     and avoid special-casing to detect pool->ref being "0" before calling
> > >     zswap_pool_put[_many].
> >
> > I don't think we can simply switch the tryget to a get, as I believe
> > we can race with the pool being destroyed.
>
> That was my initial thought as well, but I figured this couldn't happen
> since the pool->ref is initialized to "1", and based on the existing
> implementation. In any case, I can understand the intent of the use
> of "tryget"; it is just that it adds to the considerations for reference
> batching.

The initial ref can be dropped in __zswap_param_set() if a new pool is
created (see the call to ercpu_ref_kill(()).

>
> >
> > > 3) Keep the approach in v7 where obj_cgroup_get/put is localized to
> > >     zswap_store_page for both success and error conditions, and any
> > unwinding
> > >     state in zswap_store will take care of dropping references obtained from
> > >     prior successful writes (from this or prior invocations of zswap_store).
> >
> > I am also fine with doing that and doing the reference batching as a follow up.
>
> I think so too! We could try and improve upon (3) with reference batching
> in a follow-up patch.

SGTM.

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