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Message-ID: <ZvsMEaZT9ESTWOxt@google.com>
Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2024 13:37:37 -0700
From: Namhyung Kim <namhyung@...nel.org>
To: "Liang, Kan" <kan.liang@...ux.intel.com>
Cc: Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@...nel.org>,
	Ian Rogers <irogers@...gle.com>, Jiri Olsa <jolsa@...nel.org>,
	Adrian Hunter <adrian.hunter@...el.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@...nel.org>, LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	linux-perf-users@...r.kernel.org,
	Ravi Bangoria <ravi.bangoria@....com>,
	Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@....com>,
	James Clark <james.clark@....com>, Kajol Jain <kjain@...ux.ibm.com>,
	Thomas Richter <tmricht@...ux.ibm.com>,
	Atish Patra <atishp@...shpatra.org>,
	Palmer Dabbelt <palmer@...osinc.com>,
	Mingwei Zhang <mizhang@...gle.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 07/10] perf tools: Separate exclude_hv fallback

On Fri, Sep 06, 2024 at 11:21:21AM -0400, Liang, Kan wrote:
> 
> 
> On 2024-09-05 4:24 p.m., Namhyung Kim wrote:
> > The exclude_hv was added in the evsel__fallback() in the commit
> > 4ec8d984895fef43a ("perf record: Fix priv level with branch sampling
> > for paranoid=2") to address branch stack samples on Intel PMUs.
> > As some other PMUs might not support that, let's separate the bit from
> > exclude_kernel to make sure it can add the bit only if required.
> > 
> > Technically it should change the modifier string at the end of the
> > event name.  ":u" is for exclude_kernel + exclude_hv, so it should be
> > ":uh" if it has exclude_kernel only.  That means the default events for
> > regular users will looks like "cycles:Puh" (for perf record) or
> > "instructions:uh" (for perf stat).  But I'm not sure if it's worth the
> > trouble so I didn't touch the name in this patch.
> > 
> > Signed-off-by: Namhyung Kim <namhyung@...nel.org>
> > ---
> >  tools/perf/util/evsel.c | 16 +++++++++++++---
> >  1 file changed, 13 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)
> > 
> > diff --git a/tools/perf/util/evsel.c b/tools/perf/util/evsel.c
> > index 1a4f52767942e5ad..c5df45bb74dfc1b5 100644
> > --- a/tools/perf/util/evsel.c
> > +++ b/tools/perf/util/evsel.c
> > @@ -3389,10 +3389,20 @@ bool evsel__fallback(struct evsel *evsel, struct target *target, int err,
> >  		free(evsel->name);
> >  		evsel->name = new_name;
> >  		scnprintf(msg, msgsize, "kernel.perf_event_paranoid=%d, trying "
> > -			  "to fall back to excluding kernel and hypervisor "
> > -			  " samples", paranoid);
> > +			  "to fall back to excluding kernel samples", paranoid);
> >  		evsel->core.attr.exclude_kernel = 1;
> > -		evsel->core.attr.exclude_hv     = 1;
> > +
> > +		return true;
> > +	} else if (err == EACCES && !evsel->core.attr.exclude_hv &&
> > +		   (paranoid = perf_event_paranoid()) > 1) {
> > +		/* If event has exclude user then don't exclude hv. */
> > +		if (evsel->core.attr.exclude_user)
> > +			return false;
> > +
> > +		/* Intel branch stack requires exclude_hv */
> 
> I don't think it's an requirement for Intel branch stack. The HV is
> ignored for all X86.
> https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/tree/arch/x86/events/core.c#n542
> 
> I think it's a generic request for branch on all arch.
> https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/tree/kernel/events/core.c#n366

Ok, I'll update the comment.

Thanks,
Namhyung

> 
> > +		scnprintf(msg, msgsize, "kernel.perf_event_paranoid=%d, trying "
> > +			  "to fall back to excluding hypervisor samples", paranoid);
> > +		evsel->core.attr.exclude_hv = 1;
> >  
> >  		return true;
> >  	} else if (err == EOPNOTSUPP && !evsel->core.attr.exclude_guest &&

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