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Message-ID: <Zv2RIr8I04f8dEP2@google.com>
Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2024 11:29:54 -0700
From: Namhyung Kim <namhyung@...nel.org>
To: James Clark <james.clark@...aro.org>
Cc: Jiri Olsa <jolsa@...nel.org>, Adrian Hunter <adrian.hunter@...el.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@...nel.org>, LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	linux-perf-users@...r.kernel.org,
	Ravi Bangoria <ravi.bangoria@....com>,
	Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@....com>,
	James Clark <james.clark@....com>, Kajol Jain <kjain@...ux.ibm.com>,
	Thomas Richter <tmricht@...ux.ibm.com>,
	Atish Patra <atishp@...shpatra.org>,
	Palmer Dabbelt <palmer@...osinc.com>,
	Mingwei Zhang <mizhang@...gle.com>,
	Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@...nel.org>,
	Ian Rogers <irogers@...gle.com>,
	Kan Liang <kan.liang@...ux.intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCHSET 0/8] perf tools: Do not set attr.exclude_guest by
 default (v4)

On Wed, Oct 02, 2024 at 10:49:36AM +0100, James Clark wrote:
> 
> 
> On 01/10/2024 1:20 am, Namhyung Kim wrote:
> > Hello,
> > 
> > I found perf tools set exclude_guest bit inconsistently.  It used to
> > set the bit but now the default event for perf record doesn't.  So I'm
> > wondering why we want the bit in the first place.
> > 
> > Actually it's not good for PMUs don't support any exclusion like AMD
> > IBS because it disables new features after the exclude_guest due to
> > the missing feature detection logic.
> > 
> > v4 changes)
> > 
> >   * handle EOPNOTSUPP error in compatible way  (Kan)
> >   * drop --exclude-guest option in perf stat
> >   * not to separate exclude_hv fallback
> >   * rename to exclude_GH_default  (Kan)
> >   * drop the RFC from the subject
> > 
> > v3) https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20240905202426.2690105-1-namhyung@kernel.org/
> > 
> >   * move exclude_guest fallback to the front
> >   * fix precise_max handling on AMD
> >   * simplify the default event for perf record
> > 
> > v2) https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20240904064131.2377873-1-namhyung@kernel.org/
> > 
> >   * update the missing feature detection logic
> >   * separate exclude_hv fallback
> >   * add new fallback for exclude_guest
> > 
> > v1) https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20240902014621.2002343-1-namhyung@kernel.org/
> > 
> > AFAIK it doesn't matter for the most cases but perf kvm.  If users
> > need to set the bit, they can still use :H modifier.  For vPMU pass-
> > through or Apple M1, it'd add the exclude_guest during the fallback
> > logic.
> > 
> > Also the kernel feature detection logic should be separated from the
> > exclude bit tests since it depends on the PMU implementation rather
> > than the core kernel features.  So I changed it to use a software
> > event for the detection and factor out some hw-specific checks.
> > 
> > The code is available at 'perf/exclude-v4' branch in
> > git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/namhyung/linux-perf.git
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > Namhyung
> > 
> > 
> 
> Looks like you need to allow for :H in the perf stat test on M1 now:
> 
> diff --git a/tools/perf/tests/shell/stat.sh b/tools/perf/tests/shell/stat.sh
> index 5a2ca2bcf94d..77cb95859649 100755
> --- a/tools/perf/tests/shell/stat.sh
> +++ b/tools/perf/tests/shell/stat.sh
> @@ -161,7 +161,7 @@ test_hybrid() {
>    fi
> 
>    # Run default Perf stat
> -  cycles_events=$(perf stat -- true 2>&1 | grep -E "/cycles/|  cycles " |
> wc -l)
> +  cycles_events=$(perf stat -- true 2>&1 | grep -E "/cycles/|  cycles |  cycles:H  " | wc -l)

Ok, what about "u"?  Probably it can be

  cycles_events=$(perf stat -- true 2>&1 | grep -E "/cycles/(uH)*|  cycles(:[uH])* " | wc -l)

> 
>    if [ "$pmus" -ne "$cycles_events" ]
>    then
> 
> Other than that:
> 
> Reviewed-by: James Clark <james.clark@...aro.org>

Thanks for the review!
Namhyung

> 
> > Namhyung Kim (8):
> >    perf tools: Add fallback for exclude_guest
> >    perf tools: Don't set attr.exclude_guest by default
> >    perf tools: Simplify evsel__add_modifier()
> >    perf tools: Do not set exclude_guest for precise_ip
> >    perf tools: Detect missing kernel features properly
> >    perf tools: Move x86__is_amd_cpu() to util/env.c
> >    perf tools: Check fallback error and order
> >    perf record: Just use "cycles:P" as the default event
> > 
> >   tools/perf/arch/x86/util/Build              |   1 -
> >   tools/perf/arch/x86/util/env.c              |  19 -
> >   tools/perf/arch/x86/util/env.h              |   7 -
> >   tools/perf/arch/x86/util/pmu.c              |   2 +-
> >   tools/perf/builtin-kvm.c                    |   1 +
> >   tools/perf/builtin-record.c                 |   4 +-
> >   tools/perf/builtin-stat.c                   |  18 +-
> >   tools/perf/dlfilters/dlfilter-test-api-v0.c |   2 +-
> >   tools/perf/dlfilters/dlfilter-test-api-v2.c |   2 +-
> >   tools/perf/tests/attr/test-record-dummy-C0  |   2 +-
> >   tools/perf/tests/parse-events.c             |  30 +-
> >   tools/perf/util/env.c                       |  24 ++
> >   tools/perf/util/env.h                       |   4 +
> >   tools/perf/util/evsel.c                     | 394 ++++++++++++++------
> >   tools/perf/util/evsel.h                     |   1 -
> >   tools/perf/util/parse-events.c              |   6 +-
> >   tools/perf/util/util.c                      |  10 +-
> >   tools/perf/util/util.h                      |   3 +
> >   18 files changed, 364 insertions(+), 166 deletions(-)
> >   delete mode 100644 tools/perf/arch/x86/util/env.c
> >   delete mode 100644 tools/perf/arch/x86/util/env.h
> > 
>