linux-kernel - Re: [Patch v5 0/6] Bug fixes on topdown events reordering

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Message-ID: <Zv8XIZAwfoTtzOl4@google.com>
Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2024 15:13:53 -0700
From: Namhyung Kim <namhyung@...nel.org>
To: Ian Rogers <irogers@...gle.com>
Cc: "Liang, Kan" <kan.liang@...ux.intel.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@...hat.com>,
	Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@...nel.org>,
	Adrian Hunter <adrian.hunter@...el.com>,
	Alexander Shishkin <alexander.shishkin@...ux.intel.com>,
	Dapeng Mi <dapeng1.mi@...ux.intel.com>,
	linux-perf-users@...r.kernel.org, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
	Yongwei Ma <yongwei.ma@...el.com>, Dapeng Mi <dapeng1.mi@...el.com>
Subject: Re: [Patch v5 0/6] Bug fixes on topdown events reordering

On Thu, Oct 03, 2024 at 02:26:29PM -0700, Ian Rogers wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 3, 2024 at 12:45 PM Liang, Kan <kan.liang@...ux.intel.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > On 2024-10-03 12:45 p.m., Namhyung Kim wrote:
> > >>> If the algorithms cannot be changed, can you please give some
> > >>> suggestions, especially for the sample read failure?
> > >> So this is symmetric:
> > >> ```
> > >> if (arch_is_topdown_metrics(lhs) && !arch_is_topdown_metrics(rhs))
> > >>   return -1;
> > >> if (!arch_is_topdown_metrics(lhs) && arch_is_topdown_metrics(rhs))
> > >>   return 1;
> > >> ```
> > >> That is were lhs and rhs swapped then you'd get the expected comparison order.
> > >> ```
> > >> if (arch_is_topdown_metrics(lhs) && !arch_is_topdown_metrics(rhs) &&
> > >> lhs->core.leader != rhs->core.leader)
> > >>   return -1;
> > >> if (!arch_is_topdown_metrics(lhs) && arch_is_topdown_metrics(rhs) &&
> > >> lhs->core.leader != rhs->core.leader)
> > >>   return 1;
> > >> ```
> > >> Is symmetric as well.
> > >> ```
> > >> if (arch_is_topdown_metrics(lhs) && !arch_is_topdown_metrics(rhs))
> > >>   return -1;
> > >> if (!arch_is_topdown_metrics(lhs) && arch_is_topdown_metrics(rhs) &&
> > >> lhs->core.leader != rhs->core.leader)
> > >>   return 1;
> > >> ```
> > >> (what this patch does) is not symmetric as the group leader impacts
> > >> the greater-than case but not the less-than case.
> > >>
> > >> It is not uncommon to see in a sort function:
> > >> ```
> > >> if (cmp(a, b) <= 0) {
> > >>   assert(cmp(b,a) >= 0 && "check for unstable/broken compare functions");
> > >> ```
> > > I see.  So are you proposing this?
> > >
> > > diff --git a/tools/perf/arch/x86/util/evlist.c b/tools/perf/arch/x86/util/evlist.c
> > > index 438e4639fa892304..46884fa17fe658a6 100644
> > > --- a/tools/perf/arch/x86/util/evlist.c
> > > +++ b/tools/perf/arch/x86/util/evlist.c
> > > @@ -70,7 +70,8 @@ int arch_evlist__cmp(const struct evsel *lhs, const struct evsel *rhs)
> > >                 if (arch_is_topdown_slots(rhs))
> > >                         return 1;
> > >                 /* Followed by topdown events. */
> > > -               if (arch_is_topdown_metrics(lhs) && !arch_is_topdown_metrics(rhs))
> > > +               if (arch_is_topdown_metrics(lhs) && !arch_is_topdown_metrics(rhs) &&
> > > +                   lhs->core.leader != rhs->core.leader)
> > >                         return -1;
> > >                 /*
> > >                  * Move topdown events forward only when topdown events
> > >
> > > Dapeng and Kan, can you verify if it's ok?  My quick tests look ok.
> >
> > I verified the above change. It works well.
> >
> > Tested-by: Kan Liang <kan.liang@...ux.intel.com>

Thanks for the check!

> 
> Dapeng's comment should cover replace the comment /* Followed by
> topdown events. */ but there are other things amiss. I'm thinking of
> something like: "slots,cycles,{instructions,topdown-be-bound}" the
> topdown-be-bound should get sorted and grouped with slots, but cycles
> and instructions have no reason to be reordered, so do we end up with
> slots, instructions and topdown-be-bound being grouped with cycles
> sitting ungrouped in the middle of the evlist? I believe there are
> assumptions that grouped evsels are adjacent in the evlist, not least
> in:
> https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/perf/perf-tools-next.git/tree/tools/perf/util/parse-events.c?h=perf-tools-next#n2106
> Does cycles instructions end up being broken out of a group in this
> case? Which feels like the case the code was trying to avoid.

I got this:

  $ sudo ./perf record -a -e "slots,cycles,{instructions,topdown-be-bound}" true
  Error:
  The sys_perf_event_open() syscall returned with 22 (Invalid argument) for event (topdown-be-bound).
  "dmesg | grep -i perf" may provide additional information.

Thanks,
Namhyung