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Message-ID: <498f11de5a024f0ca0b70aba4e28b17b@AcuMS.aculab.com>
Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2024 17:07:03 +0000
From: David Laight <David.Laight@...LAB.COM>
To: 'Mathieu Desnoyers' <mathieu.desnoyers@...icios.com>, 'Alan Stern'
	<stern@...land.harvard.edu>
CC: Jonas Oberhauser <jonas.oberhauser@...weicloud.com>, Linus Torvalds
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Subject: RE: [PATCH 1/2] compiler.h: Introduce ptr_eq() to preserve address
 dependency

...
> What _does_ work however are the following two approaches:
> 
> 1) Perform the equality check on the original variables, creating
> new versions (with OPTIMIZER_HIDE_VAR) of both variables for the
> rest of their use, therefore making sure the pointer dereference
> are not derived from versions of the variables which were compared
> with another pointer. (as suggested by Boqun)

If that is
	a1 = a; OPTIMISER_HIDE_VAR(a1);
	b1 = b; OPTIMISER_HIDE_BAR(b1);
	if (a != b}
		return;
	// code using a1 and b1
then can't the compiler first flip it to:
	if (a != b)
		return;
	a1 = a; OPTIMISER_HIDE_VAR(a1);
	b1 = b; OPTIMISER_HIDE_VAR(b1);
and then replace the last line with:
	b1 = a; OPTIMISER_HIDE_VAR(b1);
which isn't intended at all.
		
	
OTOH if you do:
	a1 = a; OPTIMISER_HIDE_VAR(a1);
	b1 = b; OPTIMISER_HIDE_VAR(b1);
	if (a1 != b1)
		return;
	// code using a and b
(which I think is)

> 2) Perform the equality check on the versions resulting of hiding
> both variables, making sure those versions of the variables are
> not dereferenced afterwards. (as suggested by Linus)

then the compiler can't possibly reverse the asm blocks.

	David

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