linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH v6 3/3] rust: sync: Add SpinLockIrq

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Message-ID: <ZwPXSs62WY0qNLr6@boqun-archlinux>
Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2024 05:42:50 -0700
From: Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@...il.com>
To: Lyude Paul <lyude@...hat.com>
Cc: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>, rust-for-linux@...r.kernel.org,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 3/3] rust: sync: Add SpinLockIrq

On Sat, Oct 05, 2024 at 02:19:38PM -0400, Lyude Paul wrote:
> On Fri, 2024-10-04 at 14:48 -0400, Lyude Paul wrote:
> > 
> > FWIW: I agree we want things to map C closely wherever we can, but part of the
> > reason of having rust in the kernel at all is to take advantage of the
> > features it provides us that aren't in C - so there's always going to be
> > differences in some places. This being said though, I'm more then happy to
> > minimize those as much as possible and explore ways to figure out how to make
> > it so that correctly using these interfaces is as obvious and not-error prone
> > as possible. The last thing I want is to encourage bad patterns in drivers
> > that maintainers have to deal with the headaches of for ages to come,
> > especially when rust should be able to help with this as opposed to harm :).
> 
> I was thinking about this a bit more today and I realized I might actually
> have a better solution that I think would actually map a lot closer to the C
> primitives and I feel a bit silly it didn't occur to me before.
> 
> What if instead of with_interrupts_disabled, we extended Lock so that types
> like SpinLockIrq that require a context like IrqDisabled can require the use
> of two new methods:
> 
> * first_lock<R>(&self, cb: impl for<'a> FnOnce(Guard<'a, T, B>, B::Context<'a>) -> R) -> R

I think you really want to use a `&mut T` instead of `Guard<'a, T, B>`,
otherwise people can do:

	let g = lock1.first_lock(|guard, _ctx| { guard });
	// here the lock is held, but the interrupts might be enabled.

plus, I still recommend name like `with_locked` ;-) The idea looks solid
to me though.

Regards,
Boqun

> * lock_with(&self, B::Context<'a>) -> T
> 
> The first begins the locking context, in this case turning local interrupts
> off on non-PREEMPT_RT kernels, and otherwise acts like
> with_interrupts_disabled would. lock_with would be the same as what we have
> now.
> > 
> > > 
> > > Thanks,
> > > 
> > >         tglx
> > > 
> > > 
> > 
> 
> -- 
> Cheers,
>  Lyude Paul (she/her)
>  Software Engineer at Red Hat
> 
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> 
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