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Message-ID: <86d3e586314037e90c7425e344432ba21d511a26.camel@intel.com>
Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2024 15:48:03 +0000
From: "Edgecombe, Rick P" <rick.p.edgecombe@...el.com>
To: "kvm@...r.kernel.org" <kvm@...r.kernel.org>, "pbonzini@...hat.com"
	<pbonzini@...hat.com>, "Yamahata, Isaku" <isaku.yamahata@...el.com>
CC: "isaku.yamahata@...il.com" <isaku.yamahata@...il.com>, "nikunj@....com"
	<nikunj@....com>, "mtosatti@...hat.com" <mtosatti@...hat.com>,
	"seanjc@...gle.com" <seanjc@...gle.com>, "Gao, Chao" <chao.gao@...el.com>,
	"Zhao, Yan Y" <yan.y.zhao@...el.com>, "linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org"
	<linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] KVM: x86: Don't allow tsc_offset, tsc_scaling_ratio
 to change

On Sat, 2024-10-12 at 00:55 -0700, Isaku Yamahata wrote:
> Problem
> The current x86 KVM implementation conflicts with protected TSC because the
> VMM can't change the TSC offset/multiplier.  Disable or ignore the KVM
> logic to change/adjust the TSC offset/multiplier somehow.
> 
> Because KVM emulates the TSC timer or the TSC deadline timer with the TSC
> offset/multiplier, the TSC timer interrupts is injected to the guest at the
> wrong time if the KVM TSC offset is different from what the TDX module
> determined.
> 
> Originally this issue was found by cyclic test of rt-test [1] as the
> latency in TDX case is worse than VMX value + TDX SEAMCALL overhead.  It
> turned out that the KVM TSC offset is different from what the TDX module
> determines.
> 
> Solution
> The solution is to keep the KVM TSC offset/multiplier the same as the value
> of the TDX module somehow.  Possible solutions are as follows.
> - Skip the logic
>   Ignore (or don't call related functions) the request to change the TSC
>   offset/multiplier.
>   Pros
>   - Logically clean.  This is similar to the guest_protected case.
>   Cons
>   - Needs to identify the call sites.
> 
> - Revert the change at the hooks after TSC adjustment
>   x86 KVM defines the vendor hooks when TSC offset/multiplier are
>   changed.  The callback can revert the change.
>   Pros
>   - We don't need to care about the logic to change the TSC
>     offset/multiplier.
>   Cons:
>   - Hacky to revert the KVM x86 common code logic.
> 
> Choose the first one.  With this patch series, SEV-SNP secure TSC can be
> supported.
> 
> [1] https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/utils/rt-tests/rt-tests.git
> 
> Reported-by: Marcelo Tosatti <mtosatti@...hat.com>

IIUC this problem was reported by Marcelo and he tested these patches and found
that they did *not* resolve his issue? But offline you mentioned that you
reproduced a similar seeming bug on your end that *was* resolved by these
patches. If I got that right, I would think we should figure out Marcelo's
problem before fixing this upstream. If it only affects out-of-tree TDX code we
can take more time and not thrash the code as it gets untangled further.

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