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Message-ID: <ik4dyfbphm7lkeipm2dbr7cmdfxewxd4jtuz2jfnscfwcyo2r4@lrin5hnsqvyd>
Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2024 09:14:58 +0300
From: Dmitry Baryshkov <dmitry.baryshkov@...aro.org>
To: Sibi Sankar <quic_sibis@...cinc.com>
Cc: Johan Hovold <johan@...nel.org>, sudeep.holla@....com, 
	cristian.marussi@....com, ulf.hansson@...aro.org, jassisinghbrar@...il.com, 
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, arm-scmi@...r.kernel.org, linux-arm-kernel@...ts.infradead.org, 
	linux-arm-msm@...r.kernel.org, konradybcio@...nel.org, linux-pm@...r.kernel.org, 
	tstrudel@...gle.com, rafael@...nel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH V3 0/4] firmware: arm_scmi: Misc Fixes

On Fri, Oct 25, 2024 at 11:38:36AM +0530, Sibi Sankar wrote:
> 
> 
> On 10/23/24 21:56, Johan Hovold wrote:
> > On Wed, Oct 23, 2024 at 01:16:47PM +0530, Sibi Sankar wrote:
> > > On 10/10/24 20:32, Johan Hovold wrote:
> > > > On Mon, Oct 07, 2024 at 11:36:38AM +0530, Sibi Sankar wrote:
> > > > > The series addresses the kernel warnings reported by Johan at [1] and are
> > > > > are required to X1E cpufreq device tree changes [2] to land.
> > > > > 
> > > > > [1] - https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/ZoQjAWse2YxwyRJv@hovoldconsulting.com/
> > > > > [2] - https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20240612124056.39230-1-quic_sibis@quicinc.com/
> > > > > 
> > > > > The following warnings remain unadressed:
> > > > > arm-scmi arm-scmi.0.auto: Failed to add opps_by_lvl at 3417600 for NCC - ret:-16
> > > > > arm-scmi arm-scmi.0.auto: Failed to add opps_by_lvl at 3417600 for NCC - ret:-16
> > > > 
> > > > Are there any plans for how to address these?
> > 
> > > Sorry missed replying to this. The error implies that duplicate
> > > opps are reported by the SCP firmware and appear once during probe.
> > 
> > I only see it at boot, but it shows up four times here with the CRD:
> 
> https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/d54f6851-d479-a136-f747-4c0180904a5e@quicinc.com/
> 
> As explained ^^, we see duplicates for max sustainable performance twice
> for each domain.

If existing products were shipped with the firmware that lists single
freq twice, please filter the frequencies like qcom-cpufreq-hw does.

> 
> > 
> > [    8.098452] arm-scmi arm-scmi.0.auto: Failed to add opps_by_lvl at 3417600 for NCC - ret:-16
> > [    8.109647] arm-scmi arm-scmi.0.auto: Failed to add opps_by_lvl at 3417600 for NCC - ret:-16
> > [    8.128970] arm-scmi arm-scmi.0.auto: Failed to add opps_by_lvl at 3417600 for NCC - ret:-16
> > [    8.142455] arm-scmi arm-scmi.0.auto: Failed to add opps_by_lvl at 3417600 for NCC - ret:-16
> > 
> > > This particular error can be fixed only by a firmware update and you
> > > should be able to test it out soon on the CRD first.
> > 
> > Can you explain why this can only be fixed by a firmware update? Why
> > can't we suppress these warnings as well, like we did for the other
> > warnings related to the duplicate entries?
> > 
> > IIUC the firmware is not really broken, but rather describes a feature
> > that Linux does not (yet) support, right?
> 
> We keep saying it's a buggy firmware because the SCP firmware reports
> identical perf and power levels for the additional two opps and the
> kernel has no way of treating it otherwise and we shouldn't suppress
> them. Out of the two duplicate opps reported one is a artifact from how
> Qualcomm usually show a transition to boost frequencies. The second opp
> which you say is a feature should be treated as a boost opp i.e. one
> core can run at max at a lower power when other cores are at idle but
> we can start marking them as such once they start advertising their
> correct power requirements. So I maintain that this is the best we
> can do and need a firmware update for us to address anything more.

Will existing shipping products get these firmware updates?

-- 
With best wishes
Dmitry

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