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Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2024 12:34:42 -0500
From: Bjorn Helgaas <helgaas@...nel.org>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/1] RFC: dt bindings: Add property "brcm,gen3-eq-presets"

On Tue, Oct 29, 2024 at 10:24:48PM +0530, Krishna Chaitanya Chundru wrote:
> On 10/29/2024 9:25 PM, Bjorn Helgaas wrote:
> > On Tue, Oct 29, 2024 at 10:40:32AM -0500, Bjorn Helgaas wrote:
> > > On Tue, Oct 29, 2024 at 08:52:15PM +0530, Krishna Chaitanya Chundru wrote:
> > > > On 10/29/2024 8:18 PM, Bjorn Helgaas wrote:
> > > > > On Tue, Oct 29, 2024 at 10:22:36AM -0400, Jim Quinlan wrote:
> > > > > > On Tue, Oct 29, 2024 at 1:17 AM Krishna Chaitanya Chundru
> > > > > > <quic_krichai@...cinc.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > On 10/29/2024 12:21 AM, James Quinlan wrote:
> > > > > > > > On 10/24/24 21:08, Krishna Chaitanya Chundru wrote:
> > > > > > > > > On 10/22/2024 12:33 AM, Rob Herring wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Oct 18, 2024 at 02:22:45PM -0400, Jim Quinlan wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > Support configuration of the GEN3 preset equalization settings, aka the
> > > > > > > > > > > Lane Equalization Control Register(s) of the Secondary PCI Express
> > > > > > > > > > > Extended Capability.  These registers are of type HwInit/RsvdP and
> > > > > > > > > > > typically set by FW.  In our case they are set by our RC host bridge
> > > > > > > > > > > driver using internal registers.
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > Signed-off-by: Jim Quinlan <james.quinlan@...adcom.com>
> > > > > > > > > > > ---
> > > > > > > > > > >     .../devicetree/bindings/pci/brcm,stb-pcie.yaml       | 12
> > > > > > > > > > > ++++++++++++
> > > > > > > > > > >     1 file changed, 12 insertions(+)
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > diff --git
> > > > > > > > > > > a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/pci/brcm,stb-pcie.yaml
> > > > > > > > > > > b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/pci/brcm,stb-pcie.yaml
> > > > > > > > > > > index 0925c520195a..f965ad57f32f 100644
> > > > > > > > > > > --- a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/pci/brcm,stb-pcie.yaml
> > > > > > > > > > > +++ b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/pci/brcm,stb-pcie.yaml
> > > > > > > > > > > @@ -104,6 +104,18 @@ properties:
> > > > > > > > > > >         minItems: 1
> > > > > > > > > > >         maxItems: 3
> > > > > > > > > > >     +  brcm,gen3-eq-presets:
> > > > > > > > > > > +    description: |
> > > > > > > > > > > +      A u16 array giving the GEN3 equilization presets, one for
> > > > > > > > > > > each lane.
> > > > > > > > > > > +      These values are destined for the 16bit registers known as the
> > > > > > > > > > > +      Lane Equalization Control Register(s) of the Secondary PCI
> > > > > > > > > > > Express
> > > > > > > > > > > +      Extended Capability.  In the array, lane 0 is first term,
> > > > > > > > > > > lane 1 next,
> > > > > > > > > > > +      etc. The contents of the entries reflect what is necessary for
> > > > > > > > > > > +      the current board and SoC, and the details of each preset are
> > > > > > > > > > > +      described in Section 7.27.4 of the PCI base spec, Revision 3.0.
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > If these are defined by the PCIe spec, then why is it Broadcom specific
> > > > > > > > > > property?
> > > > > > > > Yes, I will remove the "brcm," prefix.
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > Hi Rob,
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > qcom pcie driver also needs to program these presets as you suggested
> > > > > > > > > this can go to common pci bridge binding.
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > from PCIe spec 6.0.1 revision section 8.3.3.3 & 4.2.4.2 for data rates
> > > > > > > > > of  8.0 GT/s, 16.0 GT/s, and 32.0 GT/s uses one class of preset (P0
> > > > > > > > > through P10) and where as data rates of 64.0 GT/s use different class of
> > > > > > > > > presets (Q0 through Q10) (Table 4-23). And data rates of 8.0 GT/s also
> > > > > > > > > have optional preset hints (Table 4-24).
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > And there is possibility that for each data rate we may require
> > > > > > > > > different preset configuration.
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > Can we have a dt binding for each data rate of 16 byte array.
> > > > > > > > > like gen3-eq-preset array, gen4-eq-preset array etc.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Yes, that was the idea when using "genX-eq-preset", for X in {3,4...}.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Keep in mind that this is an RFC; I have a backlog of commit submissions
> > > > > > > > before I can submit the code that uses this DT property.  If you
> > > > > > > > (Krishna) want to submit something now I'd be quite happy to go with
> > > > > > > > that.  I don't believe it is acceptable to submit a bindings commit w/o
> > > > > > > > code that uses it (if I'm incorrect I'll be glad to do a V2).
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > I submitted a pull request for this. if you have any other suggestions
> > > > > > > or if we need to have any other details we can update this pull request.
> > > > > > > https://github.com/devicetree-org/dt-schema/pull/146
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Thanks for doing this.   However, why a u8 array?  The registers are
> > > > > > defined as u16 so it would be more natural to use a u16 array, each
> > > > > > entry giving
> > > > > > all of the data for a single lane.  In our implementation we read a
> > > > > > u16 and we write it to the register -- what advantage is there by
> > > > > > using a u8 array?
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Also if there are 16 lanes, you will need 32 maxItems, correct?
> > > > > 
> > > > > I added these questions to the github PR.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Also, why does it define gen3-eq-presets, gen4-eq-presets,
> > > > > gen5-eq-presets, and gen6-eq-presets?  I think there's only a single
> > > > > place to write these values (the Lane Equalization Control registers,
> > > > > PCIe r6.0, sec 7.7.3.4), isn't here?  How would software choose the
> > > > > correct values to use?
> > > ...
> > 
> > Oh, one more thing: I guess "gen3", "gen4", etc. are well-entrenched
> > terms in the industry, and they're probably fine in marketing
> > materials.
> > 
> > But I really don't like them in device trees or drivers because the
> > spec doesn't use those terms.  In fact, the spec specifically advises
> > *avoiding* them (PCIe r6.0, sec 1.2 footnote):
> > 
> >    Terms like “PCIe Gen3” are ambiguous and should be avoided. For
> >    example, “gen3” could mean (1) compliant with Base 3.0, (2)
> >    compliant with Base 3.1 (last revision of 3.x), (3) compliant with
> >    Base 3.0 and supporting 8.0 GT/s, (4) compliant with Base 3.0 or
> >    later and supporting 8.0 GT/s, ....
> > 
> > As a practical matter, those terms make it hard to use the spec: where
> > do I go to learn how to use "gen4-eq-presets"?  There's no instance of
> > "gen4" in the PCIe spec.  AFAICT, all I can do is look up the PCIe
> > r4.0 spec and try to figure out what was added in that revision, which
> > is a real hassle.
> > 
> is it fine if I change names from gen3-eq-presets, gen4-eq-presets etc
> to 8gts-eq-presets, 16gts-eq-presets  etc.

Those would be fine with me.  If names starting with digits don't
work, things like "eq-presets-8gts" would also be fine.

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