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Message-ID: <20241031160635.GA35848@ziepe.ca>
Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2024 13:06:35 -0300
From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@...pe.ca>
To: "Gowans, James" <jgowans@...zon.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 05/10] guestmemfs: add file mmap callback

On Thu, Oct 31, 2024 at 03:30:59PM +0000, Gowans, James wrote:
> On Tue, 2024-10-29 at 16:05 -0700, Elliot Berman wrote:
> > On Mon, Aug 05, 2024 at 11:32:40AM +0200, James Gowans wrote:
> > > Make the file data usable to userspace by adding mmap. That's all that
> > > QEMU needs for guest RAM, so that's all be bother implementing for now.
> > > 
> > > When mmaping the file the VMA is marked as PFNMAP to indicate that there
> > > are no struct pages for the memory in this VMA. Remap_pfn_range() is
> > > used to actually populate the page tables. All PTEs are pre-faulted into
> > > the pgtables at mmap time so that the pgtables are usable when this
> > > virtual address range is given to VFIO's MAP_DMA.
> > 
> > Thanks for sending this out! I'm going through the series with the
> > intention to see how it might fit within the existing guest_memfd work
> > for pKVM/CoCo/Gunyah.
> > 
> > It might've been mentioned in the MM alignment session -- you might be
> > interested to join the guest_memfd bi-weekly call to see how we are
> > overlapping [1].
> > 
> > [1]: https://lore.kernel.org/kvm/ae794891-fe69-411a-b82e-6963b594a62a@redhat.com/T/
> 
> Hi Elliot, yes, I think that there is a lot more overlap with
> guest_memfd necessary here. The idea was to extend guestmemfs at some
> point to have a guest_memfd style interface, but it was pointed out at
> the MM alignment call that doing so would require guestmemfs to
> duplicate the API surface of guest_memfd. This is undesirable. Better
> would be to have persistence implemented as a custom allocator behind a
> normal guest_memfd. I'm not too sure how this would be actually done in
> practice, specifically: 
> - how the persistent pool would be defined
> - how it would be supplied to guest_memfd
> - how the guest_memfds would be re-discovered after kexec
> But assuming we can figure out some way to do this, I think it's a
> better way to go.

I think the filesystem interface seemed reasonable, you just want
open() on the filesystem to return back a normal guest_memfd and
re-use all of that code to implement it.

When opened through the filesystem guest_memfd would get hooked by the
KHO stuff to manage its memory, somehow.

Really KHO just needs to keep track of the addresess in the
guest_memfd when it serializes, right? So maybe all it needs is a way
to freeze the guest_memfd so it's memory map doesn't change anymore,
then a way to extract the addresses from it for serialization?

Jason

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