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Message-ID: <ZyTUsOg7cd6xSDhn@kuha.fi.intel.com>
Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2024 15:16:32 +0200
From: Heikki Krogerus <heikki.krogerus@...ux.intel.com>
To: Abhishek Pandit-Subedi <abhishekpandit@...omium.org>
Cc: tzungbi@...nel.org, linux-usb@...r.kernel.org,
chrome-platform@...ts.linux.dev, dmitry.baryshkov@...aro.org,
jthies@...gle.com, akuchynski@...gle.com, pmalani@...omium.org,
Benson Leung <bleung@...omium.org>,
Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@...uxfoundation.org>,
Guenter Roeck <groeck@...omium.org>, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 1/7] usb: typec: Add driver for Thunderbolt 3
Alternate Mode
On Thu, Oct 31, 2024 at 04:02:22PM -0700, Abhishek Pandit-Subedi wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 31, 2024 at 7:11 AM Heikki Krogerus
> <heikki.krogerus@...ux.intel.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Abhishek,
> >
> > On Wed, Oct 30, 2024 at 02:28:32PM -0700, Abhishek Pandit-Subedi wrote:
> > > From: Heikki Krogerus <heikki.krogerus@...ux.intel.com>
> > >
> > > Thunderbolt 3 Alternate Mode entry flow is described in
> > > USB Type-C Specification Release 2.0.
> > >
> > > Signed-off-by: Heikki Krogerus <heikki.krogerus@...ux.intel.com>
> > > Co-developed-by: Abhishek Pandit-Subedi <abhishekpandit@...omium.org>
> > > Signed-off-by: Abhishek Pandit-Subedi <abhishekpandit@...omium.org>
> > > ---
> > >
> > > Changes:
> > > * Delay cable + plug checks so that the module doesn't fail to probe
> > > if cable + plug information isn't available by the time the partner
> > > altmode is registered.
> > > * Remove unncessary brace after if (IS_ERR(plug))
> > >
> > > The rest of this patch should be the same as Heikki's original RFC.
> > >
> > >
> > > Changes in v2:
> > > - Use <linux/usb/typec_tbt.h> and add missing TBT_CABLE_ROUNDED
> > > - Pass struct typec_thunderbolt_data to typec_altmode_notify
> > > - Rename TYPEC_TBT_MODE to USB_TYPEC_TBT_MODE
> > > - Use USB_TYPEC_TBT_SID and USB_TYPEC_TBT_MODE for device id
> > > - Change module license to GPL due to checkpatch warning
> > >
> > > drivers/platform/chrome/cros_ec_typec.c | 2 +-
> > > drivers/usb/typec/altmodes/Kconfig | 9 +
> > > drivers/usb/typec/altmodes/Makefile | 2 +
> > > drivers/usb/typec/altmodes/thunderbolt.c | 308 +++++++++++++++++++++++
> > > include/linux/usb/typec_tbt.h | 3 +-
> > > 5 files changed, 322 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
> > > create mode 100644 drivers/usb/typec/altmodes/thunderbolt.c
> > >
> > > diff --git a/drivers/platform/chrome/cros_ec_typec.c b/drivers/platform/chrome/cros_ec_typec.c
> > > index c7781aea0b88..53d93baa36a8 100644
> > > --- a/drivers/platform/chrome/cros_ec_typec.c
> > > +++ b/drivers/platform/chrome/cros_ec_typec.c
> > > @@ -499,7 +499,7 @@ static int cros_typec_enable_tbt(struct cros_typec_data *typec,
> > > }
> > >
> > > port->state.data = &data;
> > > - port->state.mode = TYPEC_TBT_MODE;
> > > + port->state.mode = USB_TYPEC_TBT_MODE;
> > >
> > > return typec_mux_set(port->mux, &port->state);
> > > }
> >
> > The definition should be changed in a separate patch.
>
> Ack -- will pull the rename out into its own patch.
>
> >
> > > +static const struct typec_device_id tbt_typec_id[] = {
> > > + { USB_TYPEC_TBT_SID, USB_TYPEC_TBT_MODE },
> > > + { }
> > > +};
> > > +MODULE_DEVICE_TABLE(typec, tbt_typec_id);
> >
> > Now the mode would be the same thing as connector state, which is not
> > true. The connector state is supposed to reflect the pin assignment,
> > and the mode is the mode index used with the actual VDMs. For example,
> > DP alt mode has several different states, but only one mode.
> >
> > The TBT3 altmode driver will not work with this patch alone, it will
> > never bind to the partner TBT3 alt mode because the mode does not
> > match.
> >
> > Can you reorganise this series so that the patch 2/7 comes before this
> > one? Then I think you can just use the SVID unless I'm mistaken:
> >
> > static const struct typec_device_id tbt_typec_id[] = {
> > { USB_TYPEC_TBT_SID },
> > { }
> > };
> > MODULE_DEVICE_TABLE(typec, tbt_typec_id);
> >
> > Alternatively, just leave it to TYPEC_ANY_MODE for now.
> >
>
> Sure, I'll re-order the patches and get rid of the mode. I'm actually
> a bit confused as to how mode is supposed to be used since typec_dp.h
> defines USB_TYPEC_DP_MODE=1, typec_tbt.h defines
> USB_TYPEC_TBT_MODE=TYPEC_STATE_MODAL and it looks like USB state also
> starts from TYPEC_STATE_MODAL and continues.
>
> Is this documented in the spec somewhere? How should this mode value
> be used and shared between USB and various alt-modes? At least the DP
> case seems clear because as you said it describes different pin
> assignments. However, the term "mode" seems to be overloaded since
> it's used in other areas.
Well, this is confusing, I admit. One problem is that the term "mode"
really means different things depending on the spec. In DP alt mode
specification for example, "mode" basically means the same as pin
assignment, so not the object position like it does in USB PD and
Type-C specifications.
But the alt modes are in any case meant to be differentiated from the
common USB and accessory modes simply by checking if there is struct
altmode or not.
So the mux drivers for example can use the "alt" member in struct
typec_mux_state to check is the connector meant to enter alt mode, or
USB or accessory mode.
I.e. if the "alt" member is there, then it's alt mode, and the "mode"
member value matches whatever is defined for that specific alt mode.
If "alt" is NULL, then connector is in USB mode or accessory mode, and
the "mode" member is one of the common modes:
enum {
TYPEC_MODE_USB2 = TYPEC_STATE_MODAL, /* USB 2.0 mode */
TYPEC_MODE_USB3, /* USB 3.2 mode */
TYPEC_MODE_USB4, /* USB4 mode */
TYPEC_MODE_AUDIO, /* Audio Accessory */
TYPEC_MODE_DEBUG, /* Debug Accessory */
}
I hope this answers your question. Maybe this needs to be clarified in
this document:
https://docs.kernel.org/driver-api/usb/typec.html#multiplexer-demultiplexer-switches
..and the code obviously. Maybe the "mode" member struct
typec_mux_state should be renamed to "state"? Though, I'm not sure
that improves the situation.
> > > +static struct typec_altmode_driver tbt_altmode_driver = {
> > > + .id_table = tbt_typec_id,
> > > + .probe = tbt_altmode_probe,
> > > + .remove = tbt_altmode_remove,
> > > + .driver = {
> > > + .name = "typec-thunderbolt",
> > > + .owner = THIS_MODULE,
> > > + }
> > > +};
> > > +module_typec_altmode_driver(tbt_altmode_driver);
> > > +
> > > +MODULE_AUTHOR("Heikki Krogerus <heikki.krogerus@...ux.intel.com>");
> > > +MODULE_LICENSE("GPL");
> > > +MODULE_DESCRIPTION("Thunderbolt3 USB Type-C Alternate Mode");
> > > diff --git a/include/linux/usb/typec_tbt.h b/include/linux/usb/typec_tbt.h
> > > index fa97d7e00f5c..3ff82641f6a0 100644
> > > --- a/include/linux/usb/typec_tbt.h
> > > +++ b/include/linux/usb/typec_tbt.h
> > > @@ -10,7 +10,7 @@
> > > #define USB_TYPEC_TBT_SID USB_TYPEC_VENDOR_INTEL
> > >
> > > /* Connector state for Thunderbolt3 */
> > > -#define TYPEC_TBT_MODE TYPEC_STATE_MODAL
> > > +#define USB_TYPEC_TBT_MODE TYPEC_STATE_MODAL
> >
> > I think USB_TYPEC_STATE_TBT would be better. But please change this in
> > a separate patch in any case.
>
> Same question as above about mode vs state :)
Well, I was thinking that maybe we should use the term "state" here
with the idea that "state" would be something purely kernel specific,
and "mode" would then be something defined in a specification... But
now I'm not so sure (I don't think it's always clear).
Maybe USB_TYPEC_TBT_MODE after all. I'll leave the decision to you.
cheers,
--
heikki
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