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Message-ID: <aa859c52-d2b7-4a35-82ba-e59cccbec896@lucifer.local>
Date: Fri, 8 Nov 2024 08:59:00 +0000
From: Lorenzo Stoakes <lorenzo.stoakes@...cle.com>
To: "Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill@...temov.name>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
        Jonathan Corbet <corbet@....net>,
        "Liam R . Howlett" <Liam.Howlett@...cle.com>,
        Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@...e.cz>, Jann Horn <jannh@...gle.com>,
        Alice Ryhl <aliceryhl@...gle.com>, Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@...il.com>,
        Matthew Wilcox <willy@...radead.org>, Mike Rapoport <rppt@...nel.org>,
        linux-mm@...ck.org, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
        linux-doc@...r.kernel.org, Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@...gle.com>,
        Hillf Danton <hdanton@...a.com>, Qi Zheng <zhengqi.arch@...edance.com>,
        SeongJae Park <sj@...nel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] docs/mm: add VMA locks documentation

On Fri, Nov 08, 2024 at 10:26:03AM +0200, Kirill A. Shutemov wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 07, 2024 at 07:01:37PM +0000, Lorenzo Stoakes wrote:
> > +.. table:: Config-specific fields
> > +
> > +   ================================= ===================== ======================================== ===============
> > +   Field                             Configuration option  Description                              Write lock
> > +   ================================= ===================== ======================================== ===============
> > +   :c:member:`!anon_name`            CONFIG_ANON_VMA_NAME  A field for storing a                    mmap write,
> > +                                                           :c:struct:`!struct anon_vma_name`        VMA write.
> > +                                                           object providing a name for anonymous
> > +                                                           mappings, or :c:macro:`!NULL` if none
> > +							   is set or the VMA is file-backed.
> > +   :c:member:`!swap_readahead_info`  CONFIG_SWAP           Metadata used by the swap mechanism      mmap read.
> > +                                                           to perform readahead.
>
> It is not clear how writes to the field is serialized by a shared lock.
>

Yes I think there is a swap-specific lock, but I'm not sure it's worth confusing
matters by including that here, maybe here and for numab I will just wave my hands for that bit.

> It worth noting that it is atomic.
>

Will add.

> > +   :c:member:`!vm_policy`            CONFIG_NUMA           :c:type:`!mempolicy` object which        mmap write,
> > +                                                           describes the NUMA behaviour of the      VMA write.
> > +							   VMA.
> > +   :c:member:`!numab_state`          CONFIG_NUMA_BALANCING :c:type:`!vma_numab_state` object which  mmap read.
> > +                                                           describes the current state of
> > +                                                           NUMA balancing in relation to this VMA.
> > +                                                           Updated under mmap read lock by
> > +							   :c:func:`!task_numa_work`.
>
> Again, shared lock serializing writes make zero sense. There's other
> mechanism in play.
>
> I believe there's some kind of scheduler logic that excludes parallel
> updates for the same process. But I cannot say I understand this.

Ack, agreed, see above, hand waving probably required :)

>
> > +   :c:member:`!vm_userfaultfd_ctx`   CONFIG_USERFAULTFD    Userfaultfd context wrapper object of    mmap write,
> > +                                                           type :c:type:`!vm_userfaultfd_ctx`,      VMA write.
> > +                                                           either of zero size if userfaultfd is
> > +                                                           disabled, or containing a pointer
> > +                                                           to an underlying
> > +							   :c:type:`!userfaultfd_ctx` object which
> > +                                                           describes userfaultfd metadata.
> > +   ================================= ===================== ======================================== ===============
>
> ...
>
> > +Lock ordering
> > +-------------
> > +
> > +As we have multiple locks across the kernel which may or may not be taken at the
> > +same time as explicit mm or VMA locks, we have to be wary of lock inversion, and
> > +the **order** in which locks are acquired and released becomes very important.
> > +
> > +.. note:: Lock inversion occurs when two threads need to acquire multiple locks,
> > +   but in doing so inadvertently cause a mutual deadlock.
> > +
> > +   For example, consider thread 1 which holds lock A and tries to acquire lock B,
> > +   while thread 2 holds lock B and tries to acquire lock A.
> > +
> > +   Both threads are now deadlocked on each other. However, had they attempted to
> > +   acquire locks in the same order, one would have waited for the other to
> > +   complete its work and no deadlock would have occurred.
> > +
> > +The opening comment in `mm/rmap.c` describes in detail the required ordering of
> > +locks within memory management code:
> > +
> > +.. code-block::
> > +
> > +  inode->i_rwsem	(while writing or truncating, not reading or faulting)
> > +    mm->mmap_lock
> > +      mapping->invalidate_lock (in filemap_fault)
> > +        folio_lock
> > +          hugetlbfs_i_mmap_rwsem_key (in huge_pmd_share, see hugetlbfs below)
> > +            vma_start_write
> > +              mapping->i_mmap_rwsem
> > +                anon_vma->rwsem
> > +                  mm->page_table_lock or pte_lock
> > +                    swap_lock (in swap_duplicate, swap_info_get)
> > +                      mmlist_lock (in mmput, drain_mmlist and others)
> > +                      mapping->private_lock (in block_dirty_folio)
> > +                          i_pages lock (widely used)
> > +                            lruvec->lru_lock (in folio_lruvec_lock_irq)
> > +                      inode->i_lock (in set_page_dirty's __mark_inode_dirty)
> > +                      bdi.wb->list_lock (in set_page_dirty's __mark_inode_dirty)
> > +                        sb_lock (within inode_lock in fs/fs-writeback.c)
> > +                        i_pages lock (widely used, in set_page_dirty,
> > +                                  in arch-dependent flush_dcache_mmap_lock,
> > +                                  within bdi.wb->list_lock in __sync_single_inode)
> > +
> > +Please check the current state of this comment which may have changed since the
> > +time of writing of this document.
>
> I think we need one canonical place for this information. Maybe it worth
> moving it here from rmap.c? There's more locking ordering info in filemap.c.

Re: canonical place - yes I agree, once this doc goes I can follow up with
a patch that replaces the comment with a link to the official kernel.org
latest docs etc.? That would also allow us to render this more nicely
perhaps, in future.

Re: mm/filemap.c - these are getting into file system-specific stuff so not
sure if the right place but there's a lot of overlap, maybe worth importing
anyway.

>
> --
>   Kiryl Shutsemau / Kirill A. Shutemov

Thanks!

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