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Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2024 10:29:41 -0500
From: "Liam R. Howlett" <Liam.Howlett@...cle.com>
To: Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@...gle.com>
Cc: Matthew Wilcox <willy@...radead.org>, Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@...e.cz>,
        akpm@...ux-foundation.org, lorenzo.stoakes@...cle.com, mhocko@...e.com,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 4/5] mm: make vma cache SLAB_TYPESAFE_BY_RCU

* Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@...gle.com> [241113 10:25]:
> On Wed, Nov 13, 2024 at 7:23 AM 'Liam R. Howlett' via kernel-team
> <kernel-team@...roid.com> wrote:
> >
> > * Matthew Wilcox <willy@...radead.org> [241113 08:57]:
> > > On Wed, Nov 13, 2024 at 07:38:02AM -0500, Liam R. Howlett wrote:
> > > > > Hi, I was wondering if we actually need the detached flag. Couldn't
> > > > > "detached" simply mean vma->vm_mm == NULL and we save 4 bytes? Do we ever
> > > > > need a vma that's detached but still has a mm pointer? I'd hope the places
> > > > > that set detached to false have the mm pointer around so it's not inconvenient.
> > > >
> > > > I think the gate vmas ruin this plan.
> > >
> > > But the gate VMAs aren't to be found in the VMA tree.  Used to be that
> > > was because the VMA tree was the injective RB tree and so VMAs could
> > > only be in one tree at a time.  We could change that now!
> >
> > \o/
> >
> > >
> > > Anyway, we could use (void *)1 instead of NULL to indicate a "detached"
> > > VMA if we need to distinguish between a detached VMA and a gate VMA.
> >
> > I was thinking a pointer to itself vma->vm_mm = vma, then a check for
> > this, instead of null like we do today.
> 
> The motivation for having a separate detached flag was that vma->vm_mm
> is used when read/write locking the vma, so it has to stay valid even
> when vma gets detached. Maybe we can be more cautious in
> vma_start_read()/vma_start_write() about it but I don't recall if
> those were the only places that was an issue.

We have the mm form the callers though, so it could be passed in?

> 
> >
> > Either way, we should make it a function so it's easier to reuse for
> > whatever we need in the future, wdyt?
> >
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