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Message-ID: <20241117114946.GD27667@noisy.programming.kicks-ass.net>
Date: Sun, 17 Nov 2024 12:49:46 +0100
From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>
To: Jiri Olsa <jolsa@...nel.org>
Cc: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@...hat.com>, Andrii Nakryiko <andrii@...nel.org>,
	bpf@...r.kernel.org, Song Liu <songliubraving@...com>,
	Yonghong Song <yhs@...com>,
	John Fastabend <john.fastabend@...il.com>,
	Hao Luo <haoluo@...gle.com>, Steven Rostedt <rostedt@...dmis.org>,
	Masami Hiramatsu <mhiramat@...nel.org>,
	Alan Maguire <alan.maguire@...cle.com>,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, linux-trace-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
	Will Deacon <will@...nel.org>, Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@....com>
Subject: Re: [RFC 00/11] uprobes: Add support to optimize usdt probes on
 x86_64

On Tue, Nov 05, 2024 at 02:33:54PM +0100, Jiri Olsa wrote:
> hi,
> this patchset adds support to optimize usdt probes on top of 5-byte
> nop instruction.
> 
> The generic approach (optimize all uprobes) is hard due to emulating
> possible multiple original instructions and its related issues. The
> usdt case, which stores 5-byte nop seems much easier, so starting
> with that.
> 
> The basic idea is to replace breakpoint exception with syscall which
> is faster on x86_64. For more details please see changelog of patch 7.

So this is really about the fact that syscalls are faster than traps on
x86_64? Is there something similar on ARM64, or are they roughly the
same speed there?

That is, I don't think this scheme will work for the various RISC
architectures, given their very limited immediate range turns a typical
call into a multi-instruction trainwreck real quick.

Now, that isn't a problem if their exceptions and syscalls are of equal
speed.

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