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Date: Sun, 17 Nov 2024 09:24:49 +0800
From: Hou Tao <houtao1@...wei.com>
To: Alexei Starovoitov <alexei.starovoitov@...il.com>,
Thomas Weißschuh <linux@...ssschuh.net>
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Thomas Weißschuh <thomas.weissschuh@...utronix.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] bpf: Convert lpm_trie::lock to 'raw_spinlock_t'
Hi,
On 11/17/2024 12:42 AM, Alexei Starovoitov wrote:
> On Sat, Nov 16, 2024 at 8:15 AM Thomas Weißschuh <linux@...ssschuh.net> wrote:
>> On 2024-11-16 08:01:49-0800, Alexei Starovoitov wrote:
>>> On Sat, Nov 16, 2024 at 1:21 AM Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
>>> <bigeasy@...utronix.de> wrote:
>>>> On 2024-11-15 23:29:31 [+0100], Thomas Gleixner wrote:
>>>>> IIRC, BPF has it's own allocator which can be used everywhere.
>>>> Thomas Weißschuh made something. It appears to work. Need to take a
>>>> closer look.
>>> Any more details?
>>> bpf_mem_alloc is a stop gap.
>> It is indeed using bpf_mem_alloc.
>> It is a fairly straightforward conversion, using one cache for
>> intermediate and one for non-intermediate nodes.
> Sounds like you're proposing to allocate two lpm specific bpf_ma-s ?
> Just use bpf_global_ma.
> More ma-s means more memory pinned in bpf specific freelists.
> That's the main reason to teach slub and page_alloc about bpf requirements.
> All memory should be shared by all subsystems.
> Custom memory pools / freelists, whether it's bpf, networking
> or whatever else, is a pain point for somebody.
> The kernel needs to be optimal for all use cases.
I have been working on it since last week [1] and have already written a
patch (a patch in a patch set) for it. In my patch, these two allocators
will be merged if they are mergable and now the merge is decided by the
return value of kmalloc_size_roundup(). Also considering about using
bpf_global_ma instead, but the biggest problem for bpf_global_ma is the
memory accounting. The allocated memory will be accounted under root
memory cgroup instead of the memory cgroup of users.
[1]:
https://lore.kernel.org/bpf/e14d8882-4760-7c9c-0cfc-db04eda494ee@huaweicloud.com/
>
>> I'll try to send it early next week.
> Looking forward.
>
>>> As Vlastimil Babka suggested long ago:
>>> https://lwn.net/Articles/974138/
>>> "...next on the target list is the special allocator used by the BPF
>>> subsystem. This allocator is intended to succeed in any calling
>>> context, including in non-maskable interrupts (NMIs). BPF maintainer
>>> Alexei Starovoitov is evidently in favor of this removal if SLUB is
>>> able to handle the same use cases..."
>>>
>>> Here is the first step:
>>> https://lore.kernel.org/bpf/20241116014854.55141-1-alexei.starovoitov@gmail.com/
>
> .
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