linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH v2] docs/mm: add more warnings around page table access

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Message-ID: <9c12aa68-47c5-4def-92ff-7f91502d85a5@bytedance.com>
Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2024 16:02:23 +0800
From: Qi Zheng <zhengqi.arch@...edance.com>
To: Lorenzo Stoakes <lorenzo.stoakes@...cle.com>
Cc: Jann Horn <jannh@...gle.com>, Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
 Jonathan Corbet <corbet@....net>, "Liam R . Howlett"
 <Liam.Howlett@...cle.com>, Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@...e.cz>,
 Alice Ryhl <aliceryhl@...gle.com>, Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@...il.com>,
 Matthew Wilcox <willy@...radead.org>, Mike Rapoport <rppt@...nel.org>,
 Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@...gle.com>, Hillf Danton <hdanton@...a.com>,
 SeongJae Park <sj@...nel.org>, Bagas Sanjaya <bagasdotme@...il.com>,
 linux-mm@...ck.org, linux-doc@...r.kernel.org, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
 Matteo Rizzo <matteorizzo@...gle.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] docs/mm: add more warnings around page table access

On 2024/11/19 15:48, Lorenzo Stoakes wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 19, 2024 at 02:53:52PM +0800, Qi Zheng wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 2024/11/19 00:47, Jann Horn wrote:
>>> Make it clearer that holding the mmap lock in read mode is not enough
>>> to traverse page tables, and that just having a stable VMA is not enough
>>> to read PTEs.
>>>
>>> Suggested-by: Matteo Rizzo <matteorizzo@...gle.com>
>>> Suggested-by: Lorenzo Stoakes <lorenzo.stoakes@...cle.com>
>>> Signed-off-by: Jann Horn <jannh@...gle.com>
>>
>> Acked-by: Qi Zheng <zhengqi.arch@...edance.com>
>>
>>> +
>>> +* On 32-bit architectures, they may be in high memory (meaning they need to be
>>> +  mapped into kernel memory to be accessible).
>>> +* When empty, they can be unlinked and RCU-freed while holding an mmap lock or
>>> +  rmap lock for reading in combination with the PTE and PMD page table locks.
>>> +  In particular, this happens in :c:func:`!retract_page_tables` when handling
>>> +  :c:macro:`!MADV_COLLAPSE`.
>>> +  So accessing PTE-level page tables requires at least holding an RCU read lock;
>>> +  but that only suffices for readers that can tolerate racing with concurrent
>>> +  page table updates such that an empty PTE is observed (in a page table that
>>> +  has actually already been detached and marked for RCU freeing) while another
>>> +  new page table has been installed in the same location and filled with
>>> +  entries. Writers normally need to take the PTE lock and revalidate that the
>>> +  PMD entry still refers to the same PTE-level page table.
>>> +
>>
>> In practice, this also happens in the retract_page_tables(). Maybe can
>> add a note about this after my patch[1] is merged. ;)
>>
>> [1]. https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/e5b321ffc3ebfcc46e53830e917ad246f7d2825f.1731566457.git.zhengqi.arch@bytedance.com/
> 
> You could even queue the doc change up there? :>)

OK, I can add this note to my patch after this patch is merged.

> 
> I think one really nice thing with having docs in-tree like this is when we
> change things that alter the doc's accuracy we can queue them up with the
> patch so the doc always stays in sync.

Agree.

> 
> I feel you may have accidentally self-volunteered there ;)
> 
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>>>