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Message-ID: <Zz/HPBEFe0Nwgu5Z@ls.amr.corp.intel.com>
Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2024 15:50:20 -0800
From: Isaku Yamahata <isaku.yamahata@...el.com>
To: "Edgecombe, Rick P" <rick.p.edgecombe@...el.com>
Cc: "kvm@...r.kernel.org" <kvm@...r.kernel.org>,
	"pbonzini@...hat.com" <pbonzini@...hat.com>,
	"Yamahata, Isaku" <isaku.yamahata@...el.com>,
	"isaku.yamahata@...il.com" <isaku.yamahata@...il.com>,
	"nikunj@....com" <nikunj@....com>,
	"mtosatti@...hat.com" <mtosatti@...hat.com>,
	"seanjc@...gle.com" <seanjc@...gle.com>,
	"Gao, Chao" <chao.gao@...el.com>,
	"Zhao, Yan Y" <yan.y.zhao@...el.com>,
	"linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] KVM: x86: Don't allow tsc_offset, tsc_scaling_ratio
 to change

On Mon, Oct 14, 2024 at 03:48:03PM +0000,
"Edgecombe, Rick P" <rick.p.edgecombe@...el.com> wrote:

> On Sat, 2024-10-12 at 00:55 -0700, Isaku Yamahata wrote:
> > Problem
> > The current x86 KVM implementation conflicts with protected TSC because the
> > VMM can't change the TSC offset/multiplier.  Disable or ignore the KVM
> > logic to change/adjust the TSC offset/multiplier somehow.
> > 
> > Because KVM emulates the TSC timer or the TSC deadline timer with the TSC
> > offset/multiplier, the TSC timer interrupts is injected to the guest at the
> > wrong time if the KVM TSC offset is different from what the TDX module
> > determined.
> > 
> > Originally this issue was found by cyclic test of rt-test [1] as the
> > latency in TDX case is worse than VMX value + TDX SEAMCALL overhead.  It
> > turned out that the KVM TSC offset is different from what the TDX module
> > determines.
> > 
> > Solution
> > The solution is to keep the KVM TSC offset/multiplier the same as the value
> > of the TDX module somehow.  Possible solutions are as follows.
> > - Skip the logic
> >   Ignore (or don't call related functions) the request to change the TSC
> >   offset/multiplier.
> >   Pros
> >   - Logically clean.  This is similar to the guest_protected case.
> >   Cons
> >   - Needs to identify the call sites.
> > 
> > - Revert the change at the hooks after TSC adjustment
> >   x86 KVM defines the vendor hooks when TSC offset/multiplier are
> >   changed.  The callback can revert the change.
> >   Pros
> >   - We don't need to care about the logic to change the TSC
> >     offset/multiplier.
> >   Cons:
> >   - Hacky to revert the KVM x86 common code logic.
> > 
> > Choose the first one.  With this patch series, SEV-SNP secure TSC can be
> > supported.
> > 
> > [1] https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/utils/rt-tests/rt-tests.git
> > 
> > Reported-by: Marcelo Tosatti <mtosatti@...hat.com>
> 
> IIUC this problem was reported by Marcelo and he tested these patches and found
> that they did *not* resolve his issue? But offline you mentioned that you
> reproduced a similar seeming bug on your end that *was* resolved by these
> patches.

That's right. The first experimental patch didn't, but this patch does.
(At least I belive so. Marcelo, please jump in if I'm wrong.)


> If I got that right, I would think we should figure out Marcelo's
> problem before fixing this upstream. If it only affects out-of-tree TDX code we
> can take more time and not thrash the code as it gets untangled further.

Ok.  This patch affects TDX code (and potentially SEV-SNP secure TSC host code.)
-- 
Isaku Yamahata <isaku.yamahata@...el.com>

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