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Message-ID: <CACw3F50ACSOsP9+qJr2g=dL9p3-6AcZ2VWP2bbWvBMasu796pw@mail.gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2024 17:02:06 -0800
From: Jiaqi Yan <jiaqiyan@...gle.com>
To: Oliver Upton <oliver.upton@...ux.dev>, Marc Zyngier <maz@...nel.org>
Cc: joey.gouly@....com, suzuki.poulose@....com, yuzenghui@...wei.com, 
	catalin.marinas@....com, will@...nel.org, pbonzini@...hat.com, 
	linux-arm-kernel@...ts.infradead.org, kvmarm@...ts.linux.dev, 
	kvm@...r.kernel.org, duenwen@...gle.com, rananta@...gle.com, 
	James Houghton <jthoughton@...gle.com>, 
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v1] KVM: arm64: Introduce KVM_CAP_ARM_SIGBUS_ON_SEA

On Tue, Nov 19, 2024 at 11:46 PM Oliver Upton <oliver.upton@...ux.dev> wrote:
>
> On Tue, Nov 19, 2024 at 03:57:46PM -0800, Jiaqi Yan wrote:
> >
> > While continuing the discussion here, I think it may make sense I sent
> > out a V2 with 2 major updates:
> >   - add documentation for new SIGBUS feature
> >   - remove KVM_CAP_ARM_SIGBUS_ON_SEA
>
> Just wanted to add that QEMU already has a functioning "MCE" injection
> implemenation based on signals that deals with the sloppy mess of
> coordinating w/ vCPU threads [*].
>
> I completely agree with Marc that the UAPI around using signals for this
> sort of thing is a giant pile of crap, but it seems to be a semi-understood
> pile of crap. And from that perspective, wiring unclaimed SEAs into the
> existing infrastructure at least makes the UAPI consistent.
>
> [*]: https://elixir.bootlin.com/qemu/v9.1.1/C/ident/kvm_on_sigbus_vcpu
>
> > On Tue, Nov 12, 2024 at 12:51 AM Marc Zyngier <maz@...nel.org> wrote:
> > > > Do you mean a CAP that VMM can tell KVM the VM guest has RAS ability?
> > > > I don't know if there is one for arm64. On x86 there is
> > > > KVM_X86_SETUP_MCE. KVM_CAP_ARM_INJECT_EXT_DABT maybe a revelant one
> > > > but I don't think it is exactly the one for "RAS ability".
> > >
> > > Having though about this a bit more, I now think this is independent
> > > of the guest supporting RAS. This really is about the VMM asking to be
> > > made aware of RAS errors affecting the guest, and it is the signalling
> > > back to the guest that needs to be gated by ID_AA64PFR0_EL1.RAS.
> >
> > Just to make sure I fully catch you. I think ID_AA64PFR0_EL1.RAS
> > translates to ARM64_HAS_RAS_EXTN in the kernel. If VMM signals RAS
> > error back to the guest with SEA, are you suggesting
> > __kvm_arm_vcpu_set_events should check
> > cpus_have_final_cap(ARM64_HAS_RAS_EXTN) before it
> > kvm_inject_dabt(vcpu)?
> >
> > If so, how could __kvm_arm_vcpu_set_events know if the error is about
> > RAS (e.g. memory error) vs about accessing memory not in a memslot
> > (i.e. KVM_EXIT_ARM_NISV)? I guess KVM needs to look at ESR_EL2 again
> > (e.g. kvm_vcpu_abt_issea vs kvm_vcpu_dabt_isvalid)?
>
> Good point. I don't think we can lock down this UAPI after the fact
> given the existing use cases. It is ultimately up to the VMM what to do.
>
> I don't see anything that would stop an implementation without FEAT_RAS
> from generating an SEA in this situation. The lack of FEAT_RAS (to me at
> least) implies:
>
>  - No ESR injection for vSErrors (already enforced in UAPI)
>  - No deferral of SErrors / ESBs
>  - No error record registers in the PE

Thanks Oliver, if I read you correctly, __kvm_arm_vcpu_set_events
doesn't need to assert ARM64_HAS_RAS_EXTN, and it also doesn't need to
differentiate RAS and KVM_EXIT_ARM_NISV.

>
> Of course, it is very likely you've thought about this more than I have,
> Marc.

I will send out RFC V2 in a second. Please take another look and
comment there, Marc and Oliver, thanks!

>
> --
> Thanks,
> Oliver

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