linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH V7] mm, compaction: don't use ALLOC

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Message-ID: <ded3d2bf-650e-4ddc-b2be-d6faddeb3037@linux.alibaba.com>
Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2024 15:57:54 +0800
From: Baolin Wang <baolin.wang@...ux.alibaba.com>
To: Johannes Weiner <hannes@...xchg.org>, yangge1116@....com
Cc: akpm@...ux-foundation.org, linux-mm@...ck.org,
 linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, stable@...r.kernel.org, 21cnbao@...il.com,
 david@...hat.com, vbabka@...e.cz, liuzixing@...on.cn
Subject: Re: [PATCH V7] mm, compaction: don't use ALLOC_CMA for unmovable
 allocations



On 2024/12/17 23:55, Johannes Weiner wrote:
> Hello Yangge,
> 
> On Tue, Dec 17, 2024 at 07:46:44PM +0800, yangge1116@....com wrote:
>> From: yangge <yangge1116@....com>
>>
>> Since commit 984fdba6a32e ("mm, compaction: use proper alloc_flags
>> in __compaction_suitable()") allow compaction to proceed when free
>> pages required for compaction reside in the CMA pageblocks, it's
>> possible that __compaction_suitable() always returns true, and in
>> some cases, it's not acceptable.
>>
>> There are 4 NUMA nodes on my machine, and each NUMA node has 32GB
>> of memory. I have configured 16GB of CMA memory on each NUMA node,
>> and starting a 32GB virtual machine with device passthrough is
>> extremely slow, taking almost an hour.
>>
>> During the start-up of the virtual machine, it will call
>> pin_user_pages_remote(..., FOLL_LONGTERM, ...) to allocate memory.
>> Long term GUP cannot allocate memory from CMA area, so a maximum
>> of 16 GB of no-CMA memory on a NUMA node can be used as virtual
>> machine memory. Since there is 16G of free CMA memory on the NUMA
>> node, watermark for order-0 always be met for compaction, so
>> __compaction_suitable() always returns true, even if the node is
>> unable to allocate non-CMA memory for the virtual machine.
>>
>> For costly allocations, because __compaction_suitable() always
>> returns true, __alloc_pages_slowpath() can't exit at the appropriate
>> place, resulting in excessively long virtual machine startup times.
>> Call trace:
>> __alloc_pages_slowpath
>>      if (compact_result == COMPACT_SKIPPED ||
>>          compact_result == COMPACT_DEFERRED)
>>          goto nopage; // should exit __alloc_pages_slowpath() from here
>>
>> Other unmovable alloctions, like dma_buf, which can be large in a
>> Linux system, are also unable to allocate memory from CMA, and these
>> allocations suffer from the same problems described above. In order
>> to quickly fall back to remote node, we should remove ALLOC_CMA both
>> in __compaction_suitable() and __isolate_free_page() for unmovable
>> alloctions. After this fix, starting a 32GB virtual machine with
>> device passthrough takes only a few seconds.
> 
> The symptom is obviously bad, but I don't understand this fix.
> 
> The reason we do ALLOC_CMA is that, even for unmovable allocations,
> you can create space in non-CMA space by moving migratable pages over
> to CMA space. This is not a property we want to lose. But I also don't

Good point. I missed that and I need to withdraw my reviewed tag. Thanks.