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Message-ID: <202501061713.823E772F@keescook>
Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2025 17:17:10 -0800
From: Kees Cook <kees@...nel.org>
To: "Liam R. Howlett" <Liam.Howlett@...cle.com>, jeffxu@...omium.org,
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	Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@...e.cz>,
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	Dmitry Safonov <0x7f454c46@...il.com>,
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	Alexander Mikhalitsyn <aleksandr.mikhalitsyn@...onical.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 1/1] exec: seal system mappings

On Fri, Jan 03, 2025 at 03:48:23PM -0500, Liam R. Howlett wrote:
> So we have at least two userspace uses that this will breaks: checkpoint
> restore and now gVisor, but who knows what else?  How many config
> options before we decide this can't be just on by default?

See my reply to Lorenzo, but I'm not arguing for it to be enabled by
default. I was trying to show how we traditionally handle these kinds
of features: putting their enablement behind a Kconfig and boot param
that work together. That way distro kernels have it _available_ without
making it _enabled_, and specialty kernels can have in enabled by default
(and can disable it at boot if needed too).

-- 
Kees Cook

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