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Message-ID: <20250108154901.GFZ36ebXAZMFZJ7D8t@fat_crate.local>
Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2025 16:49:01 +0100
From: Borislav Petkov <bp@...en8.de>
To: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@...gle.com>
Cc: Borislav Petkov <bp@...nel.org>, X86 ML <x86@...nel.org>,
Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@...hat.com>,
Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@...hat.com>,
Pawan Gupta <pawan.kumar.gupta@...ux.intel.com>,
KVM <kvm@...r.kernel.org>, LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 3/4] x86/bugs: KVM: Add support for SRSO_MSR_FIX
On Wed, Jan 08, 2025 at 05:38:39AM -0800, Sean Christopherson wrote:
> The "host" value will only be restored when the CPU exits to userspace, so if
> there are no userspace tasks running on those CPUs, i.e. nothing that forces them
> back to userspace, then it's expected for them to have the "guest" value loaded,
> even after the guest is long gone. Unloading KVM effectively forces KVM to simulate
> a return to userspace and thus restore the host values.
Aha, makes sense.
> Hmm, mostly out of curiosity, what's the "workload"?
Oh, very very exciting: booting a guest! :-P
> And do you know what 0xd23f corresponds to?
How's that:
$ objdump -D arch/x86/kvm/kvm.ko
...
000000000000d1a0 <kvm_vcpu_halt>:
d1a0: e8 00 00 00 00 call d1a5 <kvm_vcpu_halt+0x5>
d1a5: 55 push %rbp
...
d232: e8 09 93 ff ff call 6540 <kvm_vcpu_check_block>
d237: 85 c0 test %eax,%eax
d239: 0f 88 f6 01 00 00 js d435 <kvm_vcpu_halt+0x295>
d23f: f3 90 pause
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
d241: e8 00 00 00 00 call d246 <kvm_vcpu_halt+0xa6>
d246: 48 89 c3 mov %rax,%rbx
d249: e8 00 00 00 00 call d24e <kvm_vcpu_halt+0xae>
d24e: 84 c0 test %al,%al
Which makes sense :-)
> Yeah, especially if this is all an improvement over the existing mitigation.
> Though since it can impact non-virtualization workloads, maybe it should be a
> separately selectable mitigation? I.e. not piggybacked on top of ibpb-vmexit?
Well, ibpb-on-vmexit is your typical cloud provider scenario where you address
the VM/VM attack vector by doing an IBPB on VMEXIT. This SRSO_MSR_FIX thing
protects the *host* from a malicious guest so you need both enabled for full
protection on the guest/host vector.
(And yeah, I'm talking about attack vectors because this way of thinking about
the mitigations will simplify stuff a lot:
https://lore.kernel.org/r/20241105215455.359471-1-david.kaplan@amd.com
)
Ok, lemme send a proper patch...
Thx.
--
Regards/Gruss,
Boris.
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