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Message-ID: <2007eace0fa9f591917cdd228c2cb66f045480d0.camel@linux.ibm.com>
Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2025 13:47:29 +0530
From: Aboorva Devarajan <aboorvad@...ux.ibm.com>
To: Christian Loehle <christian.loehle@....com>,
"Rafael J. Wysocki"
<rjw@...ysocki.net>
Cc: LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
Daniel Lezcano
<daniel.lezcano@...aro.org>,
Artem Bityutskiy
<artem.bityutskiy@...ux.intel.com>,
Linux PM <linux-pm@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 0/9] cpuidle: teo: Cleanups and very frequent wakeups
handling update
On Wed, 2025-01-15 at 14:52 +0000, Christian Loehle wrote:
> On 1/13/25 18:32, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> > Hi Everyone,
> >
> > This supersedes
> >
> > https://lore.kernel.org/linux-pm/4953183.GXAFRqVoOG@rjwysocki.net/
> >
> > but because the majority of patches in it are new, I've decided to count
> > version numbers back from 1.
> >
> > This addresses a relatively recently added inconsistency in behavior of the teo
> > governor regarding the handling of very frequent wakeups handling (patch [7/9])
> > and makes some other changes that may be regarded as cleanups.
> >
> > Please review.
>
> Hi Rafael,
> that looks promising. I'll review the individual patches in detail now, but
> I let a few tests run overnight and can report that there's no significant
> behaviour change with the series on an arm64 (no polling state, rk3399), which
> is my expected result.
>
> I'll get something running on a system with a polling state as well.
> (I don't have a POWER system, so that will just be x86, adding Aboorva.)
Christian,
Thanks for adding me to the thread.
Rafael,
I did some tests with the patch on a Pseries Power10 system:
Here are the system details:
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Architecture: ppc64le
Byte Order: Little Endian
CPU(s): 48
On-line CPU(s) list: 0-47
Model name: POWER10 (architected), altivec supported
Model: 2.0 (pvr 0080 0200)
Thread(s) per core: 8
Core(s) per socket: 6
Socket(s): 1
Physical sockets: 8
Physical chips: 1
Physical cores/chip: 10
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
# cpupower idle-info
CPUidle driver: pseries_idle
CPUidle governor: menu
analyzing CPU 5:
Number of idle states: 2
Available idle states: snooze Shared Cede
snooze:
Flags/Description: snooze
Latency: 0
Usage: 1411724
Duration: 27481504
Shared Cede:
Flags/Description: Shared Cede
Latency: 10
Usage: 326573
Duration: 31098864616
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
How to infer the results:
Above Diff (%) and Below Diff (%) represent the number of cpuidle misses,
indicating how frequently the selected cpuidle state was either too deep or
too shallow. So, these values should not be too high.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
The below test is done using a predictable timer and non-timer benchmark [1]:
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Menu Governor:
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
With pipe wakeup (non-timer):
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Sleep Interval Total Usage Diff Total Above Diff Above Diff (%) Total Below Diff Below Diff (%)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
0 5.980 1656304 2 0.000121 0 0.000000
1 10.959 901972 1954 0.216636 0 0.000000
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
2 15.726 243971 237112 97.188600 0 0.000000
3 20.813 232069 227258 97.926910 0 0.000000
4 30.896 209884 206492 98.383869 0 0.000000
5 40.991 216704 213642 98.587013 0 0.000000
6 51.002 195632 192963 98.635704 0 0.000000
7 61.014 163726 161506 98.644076 0 0.000000
8 71.006 140739 138809 98.628667 0 0.000000
9 81.008 123386 120725 97.843353 0 0.000000
10 101.020 98974 81235 82.077111 0 0.000000
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
11 111.044 90018 1513 1.680775 12 0.013331
12 121.015 82704 189 0.228526 77 0.093103
13 131.028 76534 272 0.355398 321 0.419421
14 141.008 71610 698 0.974724 693 0.967742
15 151.021 66869 666 0.995977 656 0.981023
16 161.027 62709 611 0.974342 605 0.964774
17 171.033 59063 593 1.004013 593 1.004013
18 181.019 55819 571 1.022949 541 0.969204
19 191.016 52998 641 1.209480 628 1.184950
20 201.017 50353 551 1.094274 501 0.994975
21 251.054 40535 289 0.712964 398 0.981868
22 301.037 33966 252 0.741918 330 0.971560
23 351.038 29279 216 0.737730 294 1.004133
24 401.047 25765 190 0.737435 262 1.016883
25 451.060 23021 185 0.803614 187 0.812302
26 501.049 20831 150 0.720081 216 1.036916
27 1001.076 10951 77 0.703132 126 1.150580
With timer wakeup:
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Sleep Interval Total Usage Diff Total Above Diff Above Diff (%) Total Below Diff Below Diff (%)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
0 7.590 1310772 0 0.000000 0 0.000000
1 12.631 789377 780 0.098812 0 0.000000
2 21.791 458001 52321 11.423774 0 0.000000
3 22.648 440752 36 0.008168 0 0.000000
4 32.644 305983 0 0.000000 0 0.000000
5 42.646 234305 0 0.000000 0 0.000000
6 52.647 189858 2 0.001053 0 0.000000
7 62.649 159561 10 0.006267 0 0.000000
8 72.644 137643 5 0.003633 1 0.000727
9 82.666 120963 5 0.004133 0 0.000000
10 102.654 97442 3 0.003079 610 0.626013
11 145.805 69937 441 0.630568 1345 1.923159
12 156.057 64511 75 0.116259 439 0.680504
13 166.047 60765 215 0.353822 534 0.878795
14 175.894 57564 178 0.309221 687 1.193454
15 185.933 54471 255 0.468139 638 1.171265
16 195.975 51403 98 0.190650 212 0.412427
17 206.062 49281 174 0.353077 577 1.170837
18 216.188 46980 33 0.070243 571 1.215411
19 226.346 44879 30 0.066846 543 1.209920
20 236.353 43081 27 0.062673 516 1.197744
21 286.158 35782 5 0.013974 154 0.430384
22 336.730 30531 11 0.036029 266 0.871246
23 386.730 26722 18 0.067360 232 0.868198
24 436.770 23797 9 0.037820 196 0.823633
25 487.229 21359 13 0.060864 229 1.072148
26 537.375 19557 13 0.066472 259 1.324334
27 1037.871 10638 12 0.112803 127 1.193833
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Teo governor:
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
With pipe wakeup (non-timer):
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Sleep Interval Total Usage Diff Total Above Diff Above Diff (%) Total Below Diff Below Diff (%)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
0 5.972 1657561 6 0.000362 0 0.000000
1 10.964 907279 0 0.000000 0 0.000000
2 15.977 623681 0 0.000000 0 0.000000
3 20.980 475385 1 0.000210 0 0.000000
4 30.981 322151 0 0.000000 0 0.000000
5 40.975 243749 0 0.000000 0 0.000000
6 50.977 195989 0 0.000000 0 0.000000
7 60.981 163876 0 0.000000 0 0.000000
8 70.978 140818 0 0.000000 0 0.000000
9 80.976 123460 0 0.000000 1 0.000810
10 100.970 99038 0 0.000000 16 0.016155
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
11 111.027 106919 5388 5.039329 16873 15.781105
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
12 121.017 83074 381 0.458627 443 0.533260
13 131.024 76588 323 0.421737 373 0.487021
14 141.027 71592 695 0.970779 695 0.970779
15 151.023 66874 669 1.000389 662 0.989921
16 161.026 62719 607 0.967809 595 0.948676
17 171.027 59064 581 0.983679 574 0.971827
18 181.020 55817 561 1.005070 532 0.953115
19 191.020 52883 523 0.988976 446 0.843371
20 201.025 50509 670 1.326496 645 1.277000
21 251.037 40544 280 0.690608 409 1.008781
22 301.033 33988 263 0.773803 349 1.026833
23 351.036 29285 221 0.754653 299 1.021001
24 401.042 25777 203 0.787524 272 1.055204
25 451.040 23029 174 0.755569 238 1.033480
26 501.048 20838 157 0.753431 224 1.074959
27 1001.097 10949 79 0.721527 134 1.223856
With timer wakeup:
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Sleep Interval Total Usage Diff Total Above Diff Above Diff (%) Total Below Diff Below Diff (%)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
0 7.541 1319205 0 0.000000 0 0.000000
1 12.546 794464 0 0.000000 0 0.000000
2 17.540 568954 0 0.000000 0 0.000000
3 22.572 442307 0 0.000000 0 0.000000
4 32.583 306443 0 0.000000 1 0.000326
5 42.597 233238 0 0.000000 0 0.000000
6 52.587 190067 0 0.000000 0 0.000000
7 62.590 159714 0 0.000000 1 0.000626
8 72.574 137755 0 0.000000 2 0.001452
9 82.581 121081 0 0.000000 0 0.000000
10 102.589 97491 0 0.000000 1912 1.961207
11 146.385 68906 47 0.068209 599 0.869300
12 156.548 64565 86 0.133199 670 1.037714
13 166.588 60562 100 0.165120 518 0.855322
14 176.676 57264 263 0.459276 642 1.121123
15 186.563 54262 293 0.539973 601 1.107589
16 195.986 51668 192 0.371603 526 1.018038
17 206.860 49028 97 0.197846 564 1.150363
18 216.899 46669 27 0.057854 460 0.985665
19 227.016 44528 22 0.049407 367 0.824201
20 237.055 42883 28 0.065294 507 1.182287
21 286.998 35665 9 0.025235 283 0.793495
22 337.410 30439 7 0.022997 264 0.867308
23 387.522 26652 18 0.067537 251 0.941768
24 437.570 23742 8 0.033696 221 0.930840
25 487.804 21293 10 0.046964 94 0.441460
26 537.884 19505 7 0.035888 243 1.245834
27 1038.863 10633 4 0.037619 135 1.269632
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Teo Governor with patch
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
With pipe wakeup (non-timer):
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Sleep Interval Total Usage Diff Total Above Diff Above Diff (%) Total Below Diff Below Diff (%)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
0 5.959 1661754 5 0.000301 0 0.000000
1 10.963 907497 2 0.000220 0 0.000000
2 15.968 623957 2 0.000321 0 0.000000
3 20.970 475574 2 0.000421 0 0.000000
4 30.974 321718 2 0.000622 0 0.000000
5 40.974 243714 2 0.000821 0 0.000000
6 50.983 195931 2 0.001021 0 0.000000
7 60.974 163876 2 0.001220 1 0.000610
8 70.973 140810 2 0.001420 1 0.000710
9 80.988 123420 1 0.000810 4 0.003241
10 100.994 99014 2 0.002020 20 0.020199
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
11 111.023 135597 11864 8.749456 45561 33.600301 => This is observed even
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- without the patch,
12 121.035 82948 348 0.419540 352 0.424362 when the sleep interval
13 131.019 76342 82 0.107411 48 0.062875 is almost equal to the
14 141.028 70948 70 0.098664 57 0.080341 residency time of state1.
15 151.023 66278 81 0.122212 69 0.104107
16 161.021 62146 65 0.104592 51 0.082065
17 171.023 58509 64 0.109385 47 0.080330
18 181.026 55301 64 0.115730 48 0.086798
19 191.033 52407 67 0.127846 45 0.085866
20 201.024 49803 52 0.104411 48 0.096380
21 251.042 39911 39 0.097717 45 0.112751
22 301.040 33302 29 0.087082 40 0.120113
23 351.045 28572 37 0.129497 34 0.118998
24 401.057 25005 20 0.079984 27 0.107978
25 451.055 22246 21 0.094399 26 0.116875
26 501.053 20031 14 0.069892 25 0.124807
27 1001.099 10055 7 0.069617 15 0.149180
With timer wakeup:
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Sleep Interval Total Usage Diff Total Above Diff Above Diff (%) Total Below Diff Below Diff (%)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
0 7.566 1314872 0 0.000000 0 0.000000
1 12.553 794091 0 0.000000 0 0.000000
2 17.573 567627 0 0.000000 0 0.000000
3 22.631 441084 0 0.000000 0 0.000000
4 32.633 306095 0 0.000000 0 0.000000
5 42.631 234377 0 0.000000 0 0.000000
6 52.634 189899 0 0.000000 0 0.000000
7 62.642 159572 0 0.000000 0 0.000000
8 72.645 137619 0 0.000000 1 0.000727
9 82.616 121037 0 0.000000 1 0.000826
10 102.636 97423 0 0.000000 1047 1.074695
11 145.823 69245 43 0.062098 680 0.982020
12 155.912 64546 90 0.139435 478 0.740557
13 166.103 60709 219 0.360737 501 0.825248
14 176.036 57483 196 0.340970 639 1.111633
15 186.043 54448 250 0.459154 623 1.144211
16 195.552 51428 124 0.241114 230 0.447227
17 205.990 49270 141 0.286178 527 1.069616
18 216.300 46931 39 0.083101 545 1.161279
19 226.288 44884 23 0.051243 520 1.158542
20 236.372 43056 20 0.046451 493 1.145020
21 285.985 35724 1 0.002799 119 0.333109
22 336.636 30526 11 0.036035 262 0.858285
23 386.522 26772 17 0.063499 218 0.814284
24 436.749 23857 26 0.108983 208 0.871862
25 487.204 21358 9 0.042139 240 1.123701
26 537.312 19530 7 0.035842 235 1.203277
27 1038.147 10610 2 0.018850 119 1.121583
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
I also did some tests with postgres (pgbench) - with the patch:
+---------------------------+--------------------+------------------+
| Metric | Shared Cede | Snooze |
+---------------------------+--------------------+------------------+
| Total Usage Difference | 119,453 | 20,472,846 |
| Total Time Difference | 502.79 seconds | 324.90 seconds |
| Total Above Difference | 74,500 (0.36%) | 0 |
| Total Below Difference | 0 | 336,703 (1.64%) |
+---------------------------+--------------------+------------------+
% Above Diff = 0.36% of total usage
% Below Diff = 1.64% of total usage
Using both the deterministic micro-benchmark and pgbench, I observed that the
teo governor with the patch as anticipated does not cause any noticable increase in the cpuidle
state prediction miss on PowerPC (pseries) (% above and below diff).
So, for the entire series:
Tested-by: Aboorva Devarajan <aboorvad@...ux.ibm.com>
[1]: https://github.com/AboorvaDevarajan/linux-utils/tree/main/cpuidle/cpuidle_wakeup
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