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Message-ID: <CAP-5=fUhNuybCU-2_5EgcCwgwXnxvyFMvyhzKe=ZP1bssQwXHw@mail.gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2025 13:37:16 -0800
From: Ian Rogers <irogers@...gle.com>
To: Namhyung Kim <namhyung@...nel.org>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@...hat.com>, 
	Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@...nel.org>, Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@....com>, 
	Alexander Shishkin <alexander.shishkin@...ux.intel.com>, Jiri Olsa <jolsa@...nel.org>, 
	Adrian Hunter <adrian.hunter@...el.com>, Kan Liang <kan.liang@...ux.intel.com>, 
	Nathan Chancellor <nathan@...nel.org>, Nick Desaulniers <ndesaulniers@...gle.com>, 
	Bill Wendling <morbo@...gle.com>, Justin Stitt <justinstitt@...gle.com>, 
	"Steinar H. Gunderson" <sesse@...gle.com>, Charlie Jenkins <charlie@...osinc.com>, 
	Changbin Du <changbin.du@...wei.com>, "Masami Hiramatsu (Google)" <mhiramat@...nel.org>, 
	James Clark <james.clark@...aro.org>, Kajol Jain <kjain@...ux.ibm.com>, 
	Athira Rajeev <atrajeev@...ux.vnet.ibm.com>, Li Huafei <lihuafei1@...wei.com>, 
	Dmitry Vyukov <dvyukov@...gle.com>, Andi Kleen <ak@...ux.intel.com>, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, 
	linux-perf-users@...r.kernel.org, llvm@...ts.linux.dev
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 4/5] perf capstone: Support for dlopen-ing libcapstone.so

> > On Wed, Jan 22, 2025 at 2:27 PM Namhyung Kim <namhyung@...nel.org> wrote:
> > > I think reverse engineering the types is fragile.  Can we simply change
> > > to dlopen if libcapstone is available?

To understand the scope of the problem, here is the LLVM code:
https://github.com/googleprodkernel/linux-perf/blob/google_tools_master/tools/perf/util/llvm.c#L22
3 typedefs and 5 #defines on 13 lines of code.

The capstone code is larger primarily due to needing to define cs_x86
(and its dependencies) which are used for extra detail in printing:
https://github.com/googleprodkernel/linux-perf/blob/google_tools_master/tools/perf/util/capstone.c#L23-L132
We could opt out of providing the extra detail if capstone.h isn't
present. I believe this can remove lines 49 to 123. This would mean
there would be 37 lines of reverse engineered types - 2 structs and 5
enums.

My feeling is that this isn't significant and better than returning
errors for capstone/llvm, having #ifdefs/__maybe_unused for the cases
we lack the types throughout the code and relying on people building
noticing a warning to realize they need to install a dependency - the
alternative of failing the build if the capstone/LLVM header files
aren't present, and unless some NO_... build option isn't passed,
likely won't fly with perf developers.

Thanks,
Ian

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