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Message-Id: <20250123-kfence_doc_update-v2-1-e80efaccc0d4@gentwo.org>
Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2025 18:06:03 -0800
From: Christoph Lameter via B4 Relay <devnull+cl.gentwo.org@...nel.org>
To: Alexander Potapenko <glider@...gle.com>, Marco Elver <elver@...gle.com>, 
 Dmitry Vyukov <dvyukov@...gle.com>, Jonathan Corbet <corbet@....net>, 
 Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>, 
 Huang Shijie <shijie@...amperecomputing.com>
Cc: kasan-dev@...glegroups.com, workflows@...r.kernel.org, 
 linux-doc@...r.kernel.org, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, 
 Christoph Lameter <cl@...ux.com>, Yang Shi <shy828301@...il.com>
Subject: [PATCH v2] KFENCE: Clarify that sample allocations are not
 following NUMA or memory policies

From: Christoph Lameter <cl@...ux.com>

KFENCE manages its own pools and redirects regular memory allocations
to those pools in a sporadic way. The usual memory allocator features
like NUMA, memory policies and pfmemalloc are not supported.
This means that one gets surprising object placement with KFENCE that
may impact performance on some NUMA systems.

Update the description and make KFENCE depend on VM debugging
having been enabled.

Signed-off-by: Christoph Lameter <cl@...ux.com>
---
Reviewed-by: Yang Shi <shy828301@...il.com>
---
Changes in v2:
- Remove dependency on CONFIG_DEBUG_VM.
- Spelling fixes.
- Link to v1: https://lore.kernel.org/r/20250123-kfence_doc_update-v1-1-9aa8e94b3d0b@gentwo.org
---
 Documentation/dev-tools/kfence.rst | 4 +++-
 lib/Kconfig.kfence                 | 8 +++++---
 2 files changed, 8 insertions(+), 4 deletions(-)

diff --git a/Documentation/dev-tools/kfence.rst b/Documentation/dev-tools/kfence.rst
index 541899353865..03062d0941dc 100644
--- a/Documentation/dev-tools/kfence.rst
+++ b/Documentation/dev-tools/kfence.rst
@@ -8,7 +8,9 @@ Kernel Electric-Fence (KFENCE) is a low-overhead sampling-based memory safety
 error detector. KFENCE detects heap out-of-bounds access, use-after-free, and
 invalid-free errors.
 
-KFENCE is designed to be enabled in production kernels, and has near zero
+KFENCE is designed to be low overhead but does not implement the typical
+memory allocation features for its samples like memory policies, NUMA and
+management of emergency memory pools. It has near zero
 performance overhead. Compared to KASAN, KFENCE trades performance for
 precision. The main motivation behind KFENCE's design, is that with enough
 total uptime KFENCE will detect bugs in code paths not typically exercised by
diff --git a/lib/Kconfig.kfence b/lib/Kconfig.kfence
index 6fbbebec683a..1f9f79df2d0a 100644
--- a/lib/Kconfig.kfence
+++ b/lib/Kconfig.kfence
@@ -11,8 +11,8 @@ menuconfig KFENCE
 	help
 	  KFENCE is a low-overhead sampling-based detector of heap out-of-bounds
 	  access, use-after-free, and invalid-free errors. KFENCE is designed
-	  to have negligible cost to permit enabling it in production
-	  environments.
+	  to have negligible cost. KFENCE does not support NUMA features
+	  and other memory allocator features for it sample allocations.
 
 	  See <file:Documentation/dev-tools/kfence.rst> for more details.
 
@@ -21,7 +21,9 @@ menuconfig KFENCE
 	  detect, albeit at very different performance profiles. If you can
 	  afford to use KASAN, continue using KASAN, for example in test
 	  environments. If your kernel targets production use, and cannot
-	  enable KASAN due to its cost, consider using KFENCE.
+	  enable KASAN due to its cost and you are not using NUMA and have
+	  no use of the memory reserve logic of the memory allocators,
+	  consider using KFENCE.
 
 if KFENCE
 

---
base-commit: d0d106a2bd21499901299160744e5fe9f4c83ddb
change-id: 20250123-kfence_doc_update-93b4576c25bb

Best regards,
-- 
Christoph Lameter <cl@...two.org>



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