linux-kernel - Re: On community influencing (was Re: [PATCH v8 2/2] rust: add dma coherent allocator abstraction.)

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Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2025 20:37:03 +0100
From: Danilo Krummrich <dakr@...nel.org>
To: Hector Martin <marcan@...can.st>
Cc: Dave Airlie <airlied@...il.com>, Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@...dia.com>,
	Greg KH <gregkh@...uxfoundation.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>, phasta@...nel.org,
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Subject: Re: On community influencing (was Re: [PATCH v8 2/2] rust: add dma
 coherent allocator abstraction.)

On Thu, Feb 06, 2025 at 06:19:42PM +0900, Hector Martin wrote:
> 
> If shaming on social media does not work, then tell me what does,

Most importantly be *consistent* with good technical arguments, calmly focus on
your actual matter rather than escalating any surrounding details.

Accept that sometimes things can't be reached directly, but additional work is
needed to change the preconditions.

Goals aren't reached by burning bridges, but by building them. Sometimes you
may not be able to build a bridge where you would like to. But you can still
look for alternative routes with and within the community.

Surely, it does take time and energy, but certainly there's no shortcut.

- Danilo