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Message-ID: <c6f98a70-b1c7-4955-bf5d-546e4563cf1c@rivosinc.com>
Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2025 12:07:40 +0100
From: Clément Léger <cleger@...osinc.com>
To: Anup Patel <anup@...infault.org>, Charlie Jenkins <charlie@...osinc.com>
Cc: Andrew Jones <ajones@...tanamicro.com>, linux-riscv@...ts.infradead.org,
 linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, paul.walmsley@...ive.com, palmer@...belt.com,
 jesse@...osinc.com, Anup Patel <apatel@...tanamicro.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 7/9] riscv: Prepare for unaligned access type table
 lookups



On 10/02/2025 11:16, Anup Patel wrote:
> On Sat, Feb 8, 2025 at 6:53 AM Charlie Jenkins <charlie@...osinc.com> wrote:
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 07, 2025 at 05:19:47PM +0100, Andrew Jones wrote:
>>> Probing unaligned accesses on boot is time consuming. Provide a
>>> function which will be used to look up the access type in a table
>>> by id registers. Vendors which provide table entries can then skip
>>> the probing.
>>
>> The access checker in my experience is only time consuming on slow
>> hardware. Hardware that supports fast unaligned accesses isn't really
>> impacted by this? Avoiding a list of hardware that has slow/fast
>> unaligned accesses in the kernel was the main reason for dynamically
>> checking. We did introduce the config option to compile the kernel with
>> assumed slow/fast accesses, which of course has the downside of
>> recompiling the kernel and I assume that you already considered that.
> 
> The kconfig option does not align with the vision of running the same
> kernel image across platforms.

I'd would be advocating to remove compile time options as well and use
another way to skip the probe (see below).

> 
>>
>> Instead of having a table in the kernel, something that would be more
>> platform agnostic would be to have an extension that signals this
>> information. That seems like it would accomplish the same goal and
>> leverage the existing infrastructure in the kernel, albeit with the need
>> to make a new extension.
>>
> 
> IMO, expecting an ISA extension to be defined for all possible
> microarchitectural choices is not going to scale so it is better
> to have infrastructure in kernel itself to infer microarchitectural
> choices based on RISC-V implementation ID.

Since adding an extension seems quite unlikely, and that a device-tree
property is likely DT centric and not applicable to ACPI as well, was a
command line argument considered ?

Thanks,

Clément

> 
> Regards,
> Anup
> 
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