linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH v4 1/9] driver core: add a faux bus for use when a simple device/bus is needed

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Message-ID: <e2087716a8328ba9c8359e50977e31a85c6fadf1.camel@redhat.com>
Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2025 15:06:00 -0500
From: Lyude Paul <lyude@...hat.com>
To: Kurt Borja <kuurtb@...il.com>, Greg Kroah-Hartman
	 <gregkh@...uxfoundation.org>
Cc: linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@...nel.org>, 
 Danilo Krummrich	 <dakr@...nel.org>, Alexander Lobakin
 <aleksander.lobakin@...el.com>, Andy Shevchenko
 <andriy.shevchenko@...ux.intel.com>, Bjorn Helgaas <bhelgaas@...gle.com>,
 Jonathan Cameron	 <Jonathan.Cameron@...wei.com>, Liam Girdwood
 <lgirdwood@...il.com>, Lukas Wunner <lukas@...ner.de>, Mark Brown
 <broonie@...nel.org>, Maíra Canal	
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	 <simona.vetter@...ll.ch>, Zijun Hu <quic_zijuhu@...cinc.com>, 
	linux-usb@...r.kernel.org, rust-for-linux@...r.kernel.org, Thomas
 Weißschuh <thomas.weissschuh@...utronix.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 1/9] driver core: add a faux bus for use when a
 simple device/bus is needed

On Mon, 2025-02-10 at 10:52 -0500, Kurt Borja wrote:
> > Modules usually don't need to do the probe callback at all.  I show one
> > example in this series (the regulator dummy driver), but it can be
> > easily rewritten to not need that at all.
> 
> This is a good point, but from a developer standpoint I would always try
> to use the probe callback. This API seems to suggest that's the
> appropiate use.
> 
> Also it would be amazing if the probe could reside in an __init section.

IMO I think it is fine without the probe callback, plus we're the ones making
the API - it can say whatever we want :).

To be clear though, generally I'm fairly sure the only reason for drivers to
be using probe() at all is because you want a driver-callback the kernel is
responsible for executing in response to a new device being added on a bus.
This doesn't really make sense for a virtual bus, since we're in control of
adding devices - and thus probe() would just be an unnecessary layer for work
that can already easily be done from the same call site that added the device.
So I think it's fine for this to be a special case imo.

-- 
Cheers,
 Lyude Paul (she/her)
 Software Engineer at Red Hat

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