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Message-ID: <CADrL8HWhuWjfuU2gPjKw0y7y1Z6oxBc05OAWUT3=L3_NtVgRrA@mail.gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2025 16:25:14 -0800
From: James Houghton <jthoughton@...gle.com>
To: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@...gle.com>
Cc: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@...hat.com>, David Matlack <dmatlack@...gle.com>, 
	David Rientjes <rientjes@...gle.com>, Marc Zyngier <maz@...nel.org>, 
	Oliver Upton <oliver.upton@...ux.dev>, Wei Xu <weixugc@...gle.com>, Yu Zhao <yuzhao@...gle.com>, 
	Axel Rasmussen <axelrasmussen@...gle.com>, kvm@...r.kernel.org, 
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v9 04/11] KVM: x86/mmu: Relax locking for
 kvm_test_age_gfn() and kvm_age_gfn()

On Wed, Feb 12, 2025 at 2:07 PM Sean Christopherson <seanjc@...gle.com> wrote:
>
> On Tue, Feb 04, 2025, James Houghton wrote:
> > diff --git a/arch/x86/kvm/mmu/spte.c b/arch/x86/kvm/mmu/spte.c
> > index 22551e2f1d00..e984b440c0f0 100644
> > --- a/arch/x86/kvm/mmu/spte.c
> > +++ b/arch/x86/kvm/mmu/spte.c
> > @@ -142,8 +142,14 @@ bool spte_has_volatile_bits(u64 spte)
> >               return true;
> >
> >       if (spte_ad_enabled(spte)) {
> > -             if (!(spte & shadow_accessed_mask) ||
> > -                 (is_writable_pte(spte) && !(spte & shadow_dirty_mask)))
> > +             /*
> > +              * Do not check the Accessed bit. It can be set (by the CPU)
> > +              * and cleared (by kvm_tdp_mmu_age_spte()) without holding
>
> When possible, don't reference functions by name in comments.  There are situations
> where it's unavoidable, e.g. when calling out memory barrier pairs, but for cases
> like this, it inevitably leads to stale code.

Good point. Thanks.

>
> > +              * the mmu_lock, but when clearing the Accessed bit, we do
> > +              * not invalidate the TLB, so we can already miss Accessed bit
>
> No "we" in comments or changelog.

Ah my mistake.

> > +              * updates.
> > +              */
> > +             if (is_writable_pte(spte) && !(spte & shadow_dirty_mask))
> >                       return true;
>
> This 100% belongs in a separate prepatory patch.  And if it's moved to a separate
> patch, then the rename can/should happen at the same time.
>
> And with the Accessed check gone, and looking forward to the below change, I think
> this is the perfect opportunity to streamline the final check to:
>
>         return spte_ad_enabled(spte) && is_writable_pte(spte) &&
>                !(spte & shadow_dirty_mask);

LGTM.

> No need to send another version, I'll move things around when applying.

Thanks!

> Also, as discussed off-list I'm 99% certain that with the lockless aging, KVM
> must atomically update A/D-disabled SPTEs, as the SPTE can be access-tracked and
> restored outside of mmu_lock.  E.g. a task that holds mmu_lock and is clearing
> the writable bit needs to update it atomically to avoid its change from being
> lost.

Yeah you're right. This logic applies to A/D-enabled SPTEs too, just
that we choose to tolerate failures to update the Accessed bit. But in
the case of A/D-disabled SPTEs, we can't do that. So this makes sense.
Thanks!

> I'll slot this is in:
>
> --
> From: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@...gle.com>
> Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2025 12:58:39 -0800
> Subject: [PATCH 03/10] KVM: x86/mmu: Always update A/D-disable SPTEs
>  atomically
>
> In anticipation of aging SPTEs outside of mmu_lock, force A/D-disabled
> SPTEs to be updated atomically, as aging A/D-disabled SPTEs will mark them
> for access-tracking outside of mmu_lock.  Coupled with restoring access-
> tracked SPTEs in the fast page fault handler, the end result is that
> A/D-disable SPTEs will be volatile at all times.
>
> Signed-off-by: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@...gle.com>

Reviewed-by: James Houghton <jthoughton@...gle.com>

> ---
>  arch/x86/kvm/mmu/spte.c | 10 ++++++----
>  1 file changed, 6 insertions(+), 4 deletions(-)
>
> diff --git a/arch/x86/kvm/mmu/spte.c b/arch/x86/kvm/mmu/spte.c
> index 9663ba867178..0f9f47b4ab0e 100644
> --- a/arch/x86/kvm/mmu/spte.c
> +++ b/arch/x86/kvm/mmu/spte.c
> @@ -141,8 +141,11 @@ bool spte_needs_atomic_update(u64 spte)
>         if (!is_writable_pte(spte) && is_mmu_writable_spte(spte))
>                 return true;
>
> -       /* Access-tracked SPTEs can be restored by KVM's fast page fault handler. */
> -       if (is_access_track_spte(spte))
> +       /*
> +        * A/D-disabled SPTEs can be access-tracked by aging, and access-tracked
> +        * SPTEs can be restored by KVM's fast page fault handler.
> +        */
> +       if (!spte_ad_enabled(spte))
>                 return true;
>
>         /*
> @@ -151,8 +154,7 @@ bool spte_needs_atomic_update(u64 spte)
>          * invalidate TLBs when aging SPTEs, and so it's safe to clobber the
>          * Accessed bit (and rare in practice).
>          */
> -       return spte_ad_enabled(spte) && is_writable_pte(spte) &&
> -              !(spte & shadow_dirty_mask);
> +       return is_writable_pte(spte) && !(spte & shadow_dirty_mask);
>  }
>
>  bool make_spte(struct kvm_vcpu *vcpu, struct kvm_mmu_page *sp,
> --

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